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26 minutes ago, Theroadlesstravelled said:


The West has abandoned the people to absolute nut cases.

Back to making opium and being told Mohammed was the ultimate shagger for the Afghans.

 

Opioum production increased massively during the occupation. The CIA love drug trafficking. 

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9 minutes ago, Melanius Mullarkey said:

How many grams of carbon in a P&B post you reckon? A pic? A gif?

 

Even at 0.02g per post, you've contributed the best part of a kilo through P&B posts alone, you monster.

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There's some really crass and poorly-informed stuff on this thread.

I won't be getting drawn in, and will be making only this post on this thread for two reasons.

1) I know a lot of people directly involved in this and it's genuinely upsetting

2) Giving away too much would make me quite identifiable, which I don't really want to do.

Two people I have worked with for years have died in Kabul (confirmed by their parents/friends) in the last 36 hours. Both executed by the Taliban/Taliban sympathisers/ it's the same thing in the period when the Taliban were apparently 'not entering the city'.

Two women I have known for several years are missing. The brother of one of them told me she has been 'taken as a wife'. There's nothing that can be done to fix this or stop this. Her life is over. The other is completely unaccounted for, but a similar fate can be assumed.

All four of these people worked at a university in Kabul. That's it. That was their crime.

 

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19 minutes ago, 101 said:

Going to need a hell of a lot more planes if they are planning on clearing the airport.

More to the point maybe how easy will it be to get the last NATO troops out of there if they don't. In Saigon, South Vietnam was still somewhat functional at least in the immediate surroundings when the last choppers and planes were leaving. Unlike the NVA, the Taliban haven't waited on the outskirts to allow the Americans to leave first and it's difficult to understand how Biden & co didn't see that scenario coming as rapidly as it did.

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3 hours ago, NotThePars said:

 


The extent of our involvement should be facilitating asylum applications and making it as easy as possible for anyone who wants to seek asylum elsewhere to do so and those of us who intervened in Afghanistan should be willing to take as substantial a bulk of those refugees as we can.

In that vein it’s probably Good that we currently have a very public discussion going on atm where influential people are doing their best to narrow the parameters of who deserves asylum as much as possible.

 

We don't want to be doing that; there was a bunch of red, angry face emojis on Facebook when STV reported I think three (?) families of Afghan refugees were being re-homed in Ayrshire a few weeks back and I saw another load today after Sturgeon announced that more Afghan refugees would be welcomed.

Wee need too put oor peepil furst ffs!!!

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9 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said:

More to the point maybe how easy will it be to get the last NATO troops out of there if they don't. In Saigon, South Vietnam was still somewhat functional at least in the immediate surroundings when the last choppers and planes were leaving. Unlike the NVA, the Taliban haven't waited on the outskirts to allow the Americans to leave first and it's difficult to understand how Biden & co didn't see that scenario coming as rapidly as it did.

The Taliban obviously want them to f**k off. Blowing up a plane or killing US troops would guarantee a military response. 

There are obviously backroom channels and this will drop out the news cycle well before the 9/11 anniversary.

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2 minutes ago, Detournement said:

The Taliban obviously want them to f**k off...

More than likely but as they start to get most of the troops out the numbers balance on who is still left inside the airport perimeter starts to tip so it isn't just the Taliban they need to worry about given they are already having major issues on how to keep the runways clear. Don't forget also that the Americans have told their citizens to remain in place at this time and not attempt to travel to the airport. Why didn't they have a secret signal sorted like "White Christmas" being played on AFRN?

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