BFTD Posted September 7 Share Posted September 7 3 minutes ago, Parttimesupporter said: It is a very strange 'national' anthem, given that there is no mention of England, or indeed the UK. The song is about loyalty to an institution rather than to a nation. Given the limited enthusiasm for the monarchy amongst younger people even in England, it's a bit of a stretch to think that the entire England team support the monarchy. More likely that a lot of them feel that they need to be seen to be singing the dirge to avoid grief. It's about compliance, isn't it. It's little wonder that people who are really, really into it get very upset that other people aren't. You aren't doing as you're told! 2 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said: The Dutch anthem is weirder. It's about granting their loyalty to Gerry Britton WTAF. Grow a pair, The Netherlands. Quote William of Nassau am I, of German descent; True to the fatherland I remain until death. Prince of Orange am I, free and fearless. To the King of Spain I have always given honour. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted September 7 Share Posted September 7 4 hours ago, Richey Edwards said: There's currently a pro-Trump rally occurring in George Square. There’s never a Glasgow council bin lorry around when you need one 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Joe Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 On 07/09/2024 at 16:10, Parttimesupporter said: It is a very strange 'national' anthem, given that there is no mention of England, or indeed the UK. The song is about loyalty to an institution rather than to a nation. Given the limited enthusiasm for the monarchy amongst younger people even in England, it's a bit of a stretch to think that the entire England team support the monarchy. More likely that a lot of them feel that they need to be seen to be singing the dirge to avoid grief. Love it when they suggest that Jerusalem might be a more appropriate anthem. Whit? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 26 minutes ago, Cosmic Joe said: Love it when they suggest that Jerusalem might be a more appropriate anthem. Whit? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parttimesupporter Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 26 minutes ago, Cosmic Joe said: Love it when they suggest that Jerusalem might be a more appropriate anthem. Whit? You're getting me in the mood for the Last Night of the Proms, can't beat a good bit of flag shagging 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velo army Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 On 08/09/2024 at 18:41, Cosmic Joe said: Love it when they suggest that Jerusalem might be a more appropriate anthem. Whit? The only objectionable thing about that is when it's suggested by those on the right as they clearly gave no idea what it's about. It's a poem of revolution and was of huge influence on Clement Atlee (it featured heavily in his writings and early speeches) and was an anthem of both the Suffragettes and the early Labour movement. I'd argue that it was actually anarchist given its shameless idealism of a world without repression of any sort. That it's been so often used to promote nationalism and imperialism would have Blake birling. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 5 minutes ago, velo army said: The only objectionable thing about that is when it's suggested by those on the right as they clearly gave no idea what it's about. It's a poem of revolution and was of huge influence on Clement Atlee (it featured heavily in his writings and early speeches) and was an anthem of both the Suffragettes and the early Labour movement. I'd argue that it was actually anarchist given its shameless idealism of a world without repression of any sort. That it's been so often used to promote nationalism and imperialism would have Blake birling. People who like left wing politics and don't mind dodgy singing might like to know that Billy Bragg recorded it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNU_Linux Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 Fitba da's living vicariously through their bairns is a hell of a thing 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 2 hours ago, GNU_Linux said: Fitba da's living vicariously through their bairns is a hell of a thing Woke nonsense..."children screamed in response...". When we was young, we'd ha been wading right in there along side our da's! What happened to proper hooliganism? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oystercatcher Posted Thursday at 19:18 Share Posted Thursday at 19:18 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted Friday at 07:59 Share Posted Friday at 07:59 12 hours ago, Oystercatcher said: Probably just a few coppers in it anyway. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Diamond For Me Posted Friday at 14:37 Share Posted Friday at 14:37 (edited) See these sticky-fingered polis? Edited Friday at 14:37 by A Diamond For Me 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted Friday at 15:32 Share Posted Friday at 15:32 When you're pishing your career up the wall to steal £115 from a corpse, you're clearly in it for the love of being a piece of shit. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted Friday at 15:34 Share Posted Friday at 15:34 56 minutes ago, A Diamond For Me said: See these sticky-fingered polis? It's a victimless crime! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted Friday at 21:34 Share Posted Friday at 21:34 6 hours ago, Sergeant Wilson said: It's a victimless crime! Like punching someone in the dark 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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