2426255 Posted June 22 Author Share Posted June 22 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: Yes. How does that play into the set piece tactic of McGinn starting on the goal-line? I'm not being deliberately thick here. How does McGinn's presence pin the goalkeeper back? If the keeper moves forward. McGinn isn't offside, I dont think I need to fill in the blanks from there. I am assuming where the ball is played from isn't important. I haven't seen any thing that states that. Edited June 22 by 2426255 -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 Just now, 2426255 said: If the keeper moves forward. McGinn isn't offside, I dont think I need to fill in the blanks from there. I am assuming where the ball is played from isn't important. Eh? Seriously? If an attacker is beyond absolutely everyone, he's onside. Are you sure? Am I being elaborately whooshed? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2426255 Posted June 22 Author Share Posted June 22 1 minute ago, Monkey Tennis said: Eh? Seriously? If an attacker is beyond absolutely everyone, he's onside. Are you sure? Am I being elaborately whooshed? Seriously. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 (edited) 13 minutes ago, 2426255 said: Seriously. The law says this: "A player is in an offside position if any part of the head, body or feet is in the opponents’ half (excluding the halfway line) and any part of the head, body or feet is nearer to the opponents’ goal line than both the ball and the second-last opponent." That surely means if you're nearer to the goal line than both the second last and last opponent, you're still offside. I still feel like the victim of a prank by even participating in this discussion. Edited June 22 by Monkey Tennis 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2426255 Posted June 22 Author Share Posted June 22 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: The law says this: "A player is in an offside position if any part of the head, body or feet is in the opponents’ half (excluding the halfway line) and any part of the head, body or feet is nearer to the opponents’ goal line than both the ball and the second-last opponent." That surely means it you're nearer to the goal line than both the second last and last opponent, you're still offside. I still feel like the victim of a prank by even participating in this discussion. I've told you why, I don't care if you believe it. Edited June 22 by 2426255 -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 1 minute ago, 2426255 said: I've told you why, I don't care if you believe it. Can you find me any supporting evidence? This is a wind up. It is, isn't it? You guys. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aberdeen1970 Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 It's any player from the defending side, there's nothing in the offside law which creates a special case for goalkeepers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velo army Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 This is either a whoosh or numbers doesn't understand the offside law and is doubling down. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 (edited) 3 minutes ago, velo army said: This is either a whoosh or numbers doesn't understand the offside law and is doubling down. I'm genuinely torn between the options. For a while, I was starting to question everything I'd always thought I'd known about offside. 'Riddled with self doubt' is pretty much my default setting, so my world was somersaulting. Edited June 22 by Monkey Tennis 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 (edited) McGinn is miles offside. I assume he’s standing there for any kind of rebound or second ball. Kyogo did it for Celtic, stood 25 yards offside and then came into play as soon as he was behind the ball. Edited June 22 by adamntg Oops, obv I meant offside. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Pennel Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 Also pretty sure its made up nonsense. Purely on the basis that if it was such a brilliant & valid tactic, someone else would have thought about it long before our coaching staff. And, they would've actually made it work. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawford Bridge Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 3 hours ago, 2426255 said: a player is in an offside position when he is standing between the opposition's goalkeeper (last defender) and last field-player (2nd last defender) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 (edited) 5 hours ago, 2426255 said: In short it's not a big concern for me. We are also absolutely immense at winning the ball back when the opposition has a throw in. Something to watch out for and obviously why we kick it out of play from kick-off A genuinely disgraceful and prehistoric 'tactic'. Embarrassing to watch. Edited June 22 by DA Baracus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoRaj Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 18 minutes ago, DA Baracus said: A genuinely disgraceful and prehistoric 'tactic'. Embarrassing to watch. Is it only embarrassing when we do it or when everyone else does? https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5570027/2024/06/19/kick-off-tactic-euros?source=user-shared-article 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 Just now, MarkoRaj said: Is it only embarrassing when we do it or when everyone else does? https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5570027/2024/06/19/kick-off-tactic-euros?source=user-shared-article Everyone 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing.McCrosby Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 6 minutes ago, DA Baracus said: Everyone Yeah it's pretty stinky, has a goal been scored in the euros from that? Hopefully not it's mince 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velo army Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 As a rugby fan I feel deeply included and seen by this kick off tactic. #allballsmatter 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordopolis Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 5 hours ago, velo army said: This is either a whoosh or numbers doesn't understand the offside law and is doubling down. Get the salt and pepper shakers out... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 Albania scored inside 25 seconds after that exact kick-off. In terms of the McGinn thing, it seemed to me that it was so that when the corner went to the back post, he could come back out and be onside for a header across the goal. He's going to start off unmarked, so he might stay that way too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArabFC Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 11 hours ago, 2426255 said: It pins the goalkeeper on his line. A player cannot be offside if behind the player nearest the goal line. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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