Dawson Park Boy Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 32 minutes ago, welshbairn said: I think I'd rather the SPS carried on doing balance of risk assessments on a case by case basis than leaving it to the Broons. So you accept that a transgender woman (in your mind a real woman) should be put in a male prison? Thats where PC gets you. Crazy. -3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 “When I speak to bigots, they all think bigoted things too” 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said: So you accept that a transgender woman (in your mind a real woman) should be put in a male prison? Thats where PC gets you. Crazy. When it's safer for everyone, yes. Do you think it would be safe for a young transgender woman done for shoplifting to be put in a male prison? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 What we really need is a member of the Royal Family to come out as trans. It would be brilliant watching the contortions in the media. Some folk on the Forum would be demanding photographic evidence of the boaby- or lack of one - before even acknowledging such a thing was possible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawson Park Boy Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 58 minutes ago, welshbairn said: When it's safer for everyone, yes. Do you think it would be safe for a young transgender woman done for shoplifting to be put in a male prison? In my mind, that’s where they should be unless they’ve had their genitalia removed and have a GRC certificate . -5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawson Park Boy Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 19 minutes ago, Salt n Vinegar said: What we really need is a member of the Royal Family to come out as trans. It would be brilliant watching the contortions in the media. Some folk on the Forum would be demanding photographic evidence of the boaby- or lack of one - before even acknowledging such a thing was possible. The only contortions I can see are within the SNP. -3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said: In my mind, that’s where they should be unless they’ve had their genitalia removed and have a GRC certificate . So safety of prisoners is not your concern, just the State's right to determine gender and put everyone in the right pigeon hole? You're about as libertarian as the inquisition when it comes down to it. Edited January 31, 2023 by welshbairn 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Brightside Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 See with these TERFs, it always, and I mean always, boils down to genitalia, they're fucking obsessed with it. From genital checks in toilets to having genitals removed to be considered this or that. To any sensible person, it is clear who the real weirdo perverts in this "debate" are, and it certainly is not trans-people. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpetmonster Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, orfc said: The edit was a typo Answer the question: why should we take the word of a convicted rapist when they say they're a woman? They're obviously a proven liar already, so why believe them on this? They don’t, that’s why individual assessments are done on each prisoner. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 9 minutes ago, orfc said: The edit was a typo Answer the question: why should we take the word of a convicted rapist when they say they're a woman? They're obviously a proven liar already, so why believe them on this? You dont understand self i.d. , do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, orfc said: As a staunch nationalist and star premiership footballer myself I certainly see its advantages As Abraham Lincoln famously said "You should never believe everything you read on the internet." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Brightside Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Just now, Salt n Vinegar said: As Abraham Lincoln famously said "You should never believe everything you read on the internet." That was Einstein ffs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 4 hours ago, Dawson Park Boy said: In my mind, that’s where they should be unless they’ve had their genitalia removed and have a GRC certificate . You really have a deeply unhealthy fascination with this stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawson Park Boy Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 22 minutes ago, Benjamin_Nevis said: You really have a deeply unhealthy fascination with this stuff. Speak for yourself. I just believe in biological sex/gender. You are the one propagating all those so called ‘progressive ‘ ideas. Mind you, I think the public are starting to wake up to all the nonsense. Back to basics. -1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 14 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said: Speak for yourself. I just believe in biological sex/gender. You are the one propagating all those so called ‘progressive ‘ ideas. Mind you, I think the public are starting to wake up to all the nonsense. Back to basics. What would you do if (theoretically) you had child, born male, but who had perhaps never conformed to the standard ideal of what a boy should be? Lets say that child told you at puberty that they felt deep down that they had always been female. All piss taking aside, if this was your child would you tell them that only biological gender counts and that a wish to change this is "nonsense"? If it was your child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawson Park Boy Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Leith Green said: What would you do if (theoretically) you had child, born male, but who had perhaps never conformed to the standard ideal of what a boy should be? Lets say that child told you at puberty that they felt deep down that they had always been female. All piss taking aside, if this was your child would you tell them that only biological gender counts and that a wish to change this is "nonsense"? If it was your child. Yes, fair point although it’s really just self id with which I have a problem. Obviously, we’d take all the professional and medical advice available. We would do everything to delay the situation and, I expect, hope they would grow out of it. At the end of the day if drugs and operations are required then I would imagine we’d be supportive and loving. Not much more I can say, really. -3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackislekillie Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 14 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said: Yes, fair point although it’s really just self id with which I have a problem. Obviously, we’d take all the professional and medical advice available. We would do everything to delay the situation and, I expect, hope they would grow out of it. At the end of the day if drugs and operations are required then I would imagine we’d be supportive and loving. Not much more I can say, really. How about "I'm sorry for being a bigot"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 15 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said: Yes, fair point although it’s really just self id with which I have a problem. Obviously, we’d take all the professional and medical advice available. We would do everything to delay the situation and, I expect, hope they would grow out of it. At the end of the day if drugs and operations are required then I would imagine we’d be supportive and loving. Not much more I can say, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawson Park Boy Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, blackislekillie said: How about "I'm sorry for being a bigot"? I’m not. No apology required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugster Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 19 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said: Yes, fair point although it’s really just self id with which I have a problem. Obviously, we’d take all the professional and medical advice available. We would do everything to delay the situation and, I expect, hope they would grow out of it. At the end of the day if drugs and operations are required then I would imagine we’d be supportive and loving. Not much more I can say, really. What if they told you they were gay? Would you hope they would grow out of that? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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