Clown Job Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 58 minutes ago, ICTChris said: I think there are a number of reasons why people didn’t care about guys like Abramovitch. One is that I think the governments and societies thought, or made themselves think, that these oligarchs were a necessary price of the transition from soviet communism to liberal democracy. These guys were ruthless and got rich in ways that are distasteful but this was the start of the new Russia. By offering the expertise and services od the world leading City we can help civilise these emerging markets. The fact that there was huge dollops of cash to be made no doubt helped people come to this view. People use the term "oligarch" as if this is a uniquely Russian thing. In reality the view was that if Russia became capitalist then like other capitalist countries some people would become obscenely rich but that's okay because that is how capitalism works and there would some sort of trickle down of all that money - except that there wasn't. Anyone who thinks these oligarchs (I.e. Russian Billionaires) alone are disgustingly rich should also be aware that the three richest men in America have more money than the poorest half of America. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuckleMoo Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Footage is like something you would see in a Call Of Duty game 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 22 minutes ago, Detective Jimmy McNulty said: Elon now offering Putin a square go. She has most definitely turned the weans against him. I think that's about the only imaginable fight that I would be quite happy for Putin to win. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 21 minutes ago, ICTChris said: Russia want the Chinese to sell them military ration packs. https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/14/politics/us-china-russia-ukraine/index.html I quite like Chinese food but wouldn’t want to eat it day after day whilst invading another country… 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillonearth Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 25 minutes ago, ICTChris said: Russia want the Chinese to sell them military ration packs. https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/14/politics/us-china-russia-ukraine/index.html Hopefully it's bat soup. Actually I can see why - there was footage on one of the news channels where the Ukrainians were laughing at the rations they'd found on a captured Russian. It was meant to be used before 2014 or 2015...they basically got sent into battle with food with yellow stickers on it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 10 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: I quite like Chinese food but wouldn’t want to eat it day after day whilst invading another country… I am not a fussy eater but I still recall going to an authentic Chinese restaurant in Toronto. Practically everything on the menu was unappealing. Dishes like spleen, intestines, bladders and chicken feet were not what I was used to. Those Russians will have no idea what they are getting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Tattiescone Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 1 hour ago, jagfox OG said: When was this utopian period? Back when Crassus was a boy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Hillonearth said: Hopefully it's bat soup. Actually I can see why - there was footage on one of the news channels where the Ukrainians were laughing at the rations they'd found on a captured Russian. It was meant to be used before 2014 or 2015...they basically got sent into battle with food with yellow stickers on it. Some were going to get a foosty onion each for dinner. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentGuerin Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 While the Panorama show about Abramovich won't contain any 'new' info for those who have followed the case, most people have not followed it and it makes perfect sense for the BBC to broadcast this at this point. So, shut the f**k up with your 'ooooh, this is nothing new'. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie S Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Caledonian1 said: I registered on the site to offer accommodation to Ukrainian refugee(s) Has anyone else done the same. Required patience as the site kept crashing - can only imagine that they have been inundated with offers. Whilst I do not know a "named" Ukrainian I understand they should get back in touch soon to see what I have to offer to a complete stranger(s) I have a couple of spare bedrooms so it is not exactly going to be a hardship......have donated a couple of times whilst watching the news (tearfully) but offering a home to some of these poor distraught people would be far more meaningful and impactful. Ditto. Our daughter has moved out to go to Uni, so we have a spare room. My wife, son and I (and our daughter) were in full agreement that we should apply to join the Homes for Ukraine sponsorship scheme. We’re happy to accommodate an adult plus child / children (it’s a decent-sized room). We went for the 6-9 months option initially, but will almost certainly be happy to extend. I’ve also applied to the UKVI (UK Visas and Immigration) business sponsorship scheme to enable my business to employ people from outside the U.K. Edited March 15, 2022 by Frankie S 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 5 hours ago, beefybake said: Fair enough. The next question is fairly obviously who in the various UK media outlets, inc BBC, stopped programmes like this being broadcast, or printed well before now. Scared of all the London lawyers paid by the oligarchs ? Or ? There have been loads of documentaries and articles about how Abramovich and co got their money in the 1990s wild west over the years. I guess it's only now that it's become newsworthy again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kersey Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Waldo Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 A decent article on Russia's logistical issues. Probably explains why they are asking for help. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 8 hours ago, Fullerene said: I am not a fussy eater but I still recall going to an authentic Chinese restaurant in Toronto. Practically everything on the menu was unappealing. Dishes like spleen, intestines, bladders and chicken feet were not what I was used to. Those Russians will have no idea what they are getting. It will be bags of soft prawn crackers and out of date Chicken Maryland hopefully. You know, the proper authentic stuff. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian1 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Paul Kersey said: Unbelievable...... Does anyone know what "detained" means in reality for those brave enough to hold up "no war" signs or protest on the Russian streets? Genuine question - I know they state the maximum jail term can be 15 years but in reality what has happened to the thousands detained in Moscow and St Petersburgh in the past couple of weeks. Is it a night in the cells and let oot or far more severe. I fear for the young journalist who went on live tv....incredibly brave 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 13 minutes ago, Caledonian1 said: Unbelievable...... Does anyone know what "detained" means in reality for those brave enough to hold up "no war" signs or protest on the Russian streets? Genuine question - I know they state the maximum jail term can be 15 years but in reality what has happened to the thousands detained in Moscow and St Petersburgh in the past couple of weeks. Is it a night in the cells and let oot or far more severe. I fear for the young journalist who went on live tv....incredibly brave I saw a protestor the other day saying she still protests as she's not been caught yet. Once she gets caught she'll pull back as she doesn't want caught a second time and a criminal record so believe if you get caught once it's a caution and let out. Of course, to make such a marked point on state TV won't carry the level of leniency. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 29 minutes ago, Caledonian1 said: Unbelievable...... Does anyone know what "detained" means in reality for those brave enough to hold up "no war" signs or protest on the Russian streets? They’re…given a little present and allowed to go free. They’re smacked and told not to be naughty, but basically let off. They’re put in prison for the night, and brutally guillotined in the morning. (think one of those is close) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 7 hours ago, VincentGuerin said: While the Panorama show about Abramovich won't contain any 'new' info for those who have followed the case, most people have not followed it and it makes perfect sense for the BBC to broadcast this at this point. So, shut the f**k up with your 'ooooh, this is nothing new'. Most people who don't follow serious stories don't watch Panorama either m8. If they wanted a bit more of a scoop then they could have turned the spotlight on the UK elite's aiding and abetting of Russian oligarchs over the past 30 years. Unsurprisingly, the BBC pulls its punches when it comes to criticising establishment voices; while at the same time trying to guilt trip everyone into paying a regressive tax to fund its 'unique public service broadcasting'. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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