Detournement Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 1 minute ago, welshbairn said: When you say 2014 do you mean the initial Russian invasion or the President countermanding Parliament on EU cooperation and getting kicked out? The coup organised by America with the Nazi snipers shooting people -4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 The thing is that the Ukraine invasion is happening now and you haven't said a word against it. Of course there have been other unjust wars and atrocities but by continually bringing them up it makes it look like you're condoning this one. Also by continually repeating the propaganda line that the Russians are only trying to free the Ukrainians from Nazis.The irony is that most of these posturing anti-American leftists wouldn't be tolerated by their Russian comrades.PS Just on cue H_B rehashes the same propaganda. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartsOfficialMoaner Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 "This will become an artillery conflict," UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson said in parliament after the meeting with other leaders. "They [Ukraine] need support with more artillery, that is what we will be giving them. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-61155035 Are we giving them weapons or selling them? Are we, the taxpayers, paying for the weapons or is Ukraine buying them? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 11 minutes ago, HeartsOfficialMoaner said: "This will become an artillery conflict," UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson said in parliament after the meeting with other leaders. "They [Ukraine] need support with more artillery, that is what we will be giving them. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-61155035 Are we giving them weapons or selling them? Are we, the taxpayers, paying for the weapons or is Ukraine buying them? Not sure about artillery but Boris is a rocket. Maybe we should send him back over? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 19 minutes ago, HeartsOfficialMoaner said: "This will become an artillery conflict," UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson said in parliament after the meeting with other leaders. "They [Ukraine] need support with more artillery, that is what we will be giving them. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-61155035 Are we giving them weapons or selling them? Are we, the taxpayers, paying for the weapons or is Ukraine buying them? Giving them. Quite happy as a taxpayer to fund anything that stops fascists - aren't you? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 25 minutes ago, jagfox said: Not sure about artillery but Boris is a rocket. Maybe we should send him back over? He’s the biggest weapon on the planet. Could win the war himself if he wasn’t too busy getting pished in the cabinet room. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, Left Back said: He’s the biggest weapon on the planet. Could win the war himself if he wasn’t too busy getting pished in the cabinet room. How dare you! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Waldo Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 39 minutes ago, HeartsOfficialMoaner said: "This will become an artillery conflict," UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson said in parliament after the meeting with other leaders. "They [Ukraine] need support with more artillery, that is what we will be giving them. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-61155035 Are we giving them weapons or selling them? Are we, the taxpayers, paying for the weapons or is Ukraine buying them? Both. We have, or had, a deal to build ships on the never, never. We are currently giving them weapons to fight Russia. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandcowden Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 3 hours ago, Detournement said: https://centreformilitaryjustice.org.uk/reports-of-murder-and-cover-up-by-the-british-army-in-kenya/ Rape and murder by British soldiers in Kenya. Completely unpunished. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Baha_Mousa https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/sep/16/british-troops-soldiers-condemned-drowning-iraqi-boy-forced-canal-invasion-judge-inquest-style-hearing Iraqi civilians murdered. Completely unpunished. https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/british-government-admitted-played-role-12512341 The UK kidnapping Libyans. They got compensation basically because we turned on Gaddafi. It's worse when Russia does it though. British soldiers behaving like c***s doesn't give your good mates a free pass 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 2 hours ago, Detournement said: Whataboutery or considering as much information as possible in context? You decide. The question of why people are so angry about Russian killings and other crimes yet are wholly comfortable with their own government doing these things is extremely important. Who's wholly comfortable? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 Just now, Jacksgranda said: Who's wholly comfortable? People that keep voting for the pro war parties. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Detournement said: People that keep voting for the pro war parties. Who do you vote for, or do you think democracy is outmoded? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 Some people have called Putin a monster while others have called him a raving loony. It seems obvious which party is to blame for encouraging all of this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ICTChris Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 Russian forces have made a breakthrough in the Northern Donbas, heading towards Lyman. There are more reports of Mig fighters to be provided to Ukraine through various means, this has been said before. Canada and the US have undertaken to supply artillery to Ukraine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Waldo Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 It has been reported that, during a town meeting, Rozovka (and a chunk of surrounding territory) "decided to join the Donetz Republic". We should note. 1) Many civilians have fled and left leaving, mostly, the vulnerable and elderly. 2) A town meeting is not really a referendum. 3) The town is already under Russian / rebel control, so is it a question of duress? If true, I think we'll probably see more of this - Russia absorbing more territory by simply gathering a few locals together. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 https://centreformilitaryjustice.org.uk/reports-of-murder-and-cover-up-by-the-british-army-in-kenya/ Rape and murder by British soldiers in Kenya. Completely unpunished. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Baha_Mousa https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/sep/16/british-troops-soldiers-condemned-drowning-iraqi-boy-forced-canal-invasion-judge-inquest-style-hearing Iraqi civilians murdered. Completely unpunished. https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/british-government-admitted-played-role-12512341 The UK kidnapping Libyans. They got compensation basically because we turned on Gaddafi. It's worse when Russia does it though. You think that the wrongful actions of the U.K. government in Iraq and Afghanistan or rotten apples within the British Army in Kenya, somehow exonerate the crimes of Putin’s forces in Ukraine? Wow. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 8 hours ago, Clockwork said: You think that the wrongful actions of the U.K. government in Iraq and Afghanistan or rotten apples within the British Army in Kenya, somehow exonerate the crimes of Putin’s forces in Ukraine? Wow. Obviously he thinks that the Russian war crimes are all lies from the West and its Ukrainians who are doing it. And probably UK and US secret death squads. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartsOfficialMoaner Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 11 hours ago, Newbornbairn said: Giving them. Quite happy as a taxpayer to fund anything that stops fascists - aren't you? I don't want us to supply arms to Ukraine, we can help in other ways. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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