welshbairn Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Not directly related, but one of the reasons that Blair, Bush and co were able to perpetuate the myth of Iraqi WMD was that Sadaam's military chiefs had convinced him that they still existed, when in fact they were rotting in the desert and totally useless. If anybody on the Iraqi side had been brave enough to take the UN inspectors out to see them, it's faintly possible that the war could have been avoided. It's also possible the Iraqis thought that the myth of having WMD would protect them rather than the opposite. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 13 minutes ago, Albus Bulbasaur said: Reminds me of the type of person that can't call out Nicola Sturgeon and Boris Johnson at the same time for their covid failures. The grown ups are talking, fuckoff back to politics. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 On 07/04/2022 at 19:34, sophia said: You name will also go on the list @Elixir @Blue Brazil Forever @Firefoxer @steve55 @Captain Saintsible @SuperSaints1877 12 hours ago, Detournement said: I think the 8 year war in Donbass, persecution of Russian speakers, American funded military biolabs, the increasingly Nazi character of the Ukranian state, the refusal to implement the Minsk agreements and the lack of progress in security negotiations justify the war. It's similar to Vietnam invading Cambodia in 1978. Your name will also go on the list. What is it? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albus Bulbasaur Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, welshbairn said: The grown ups are talking, fuckoff back to politics. That could be the cringeyst sentence I've read on here. It was a light jibe, I'm sorry that it obviously cut deep, enjoy your night with the grown ups sparring in this intellectual battlefield. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 26 minutes ago, Albus Bulbasaur said: That could be the cringeyst sentence I've read on here. It was a light jibe, I'm sorry that it obviously cut deep, enjoy your night with the grown ups sparring in this intellectual battlefield. A wee joke to lighten the mood when the subject is organised murder? Fair enough. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 12 hours ago, Detournement said: I think the 8 year war in Donbass, persecution of Russian speakers, American funded military biolabs, the increasingly Nazi character of the Ukranian state, the refusal to implement the Minsk agreements and the lack of progress in security negotiations justify the war. It's similar to Vietnam invading Cambodia in 1978. That is some take. The murder, torture and rape of Ukrainian citizens is justified by these, eh? Wild. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albus Bulbasaur Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 20 minutes ago, welshbairn said: A wee joke to lighten the mood when the subject is organised murder? Fair enough. No the joke was at yourself and your character obviously. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 57 minutes ago, scottsdad said: That is some take. The murder, torture and rape of Ukrainian citizens is justified by these, eh? Wild. Hillary goaded them into it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillonearth Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 20 minutes ago, Theroadlesstravelled said: Hillary goaded them into it. Some man. You'd think he'd have been happy with the first man up Everest thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kersey Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Japanese newsreader breaks down while telling her audience what a c**t Putin is.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 On 21/03/2022 at 06:49, Newbornbairn said: Some level of victim blaming going on here. Russia is murdering men, women and children indiscriminately and it's Ukraine's fault for not surrendering? On 21/03/2022 at 07:08, virginton said: There's no evidence of indiscriminate murder of women and children FFS. This aged well 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, scottsdad said: That is some take. The murder, torture and rape of Ukrainian citizens is justified by these, eh? Wild. It's exactly the same as Azov doing it for the last few years to ethnic Russians. It's shite but that's what happens in wars. The best thing is to avoid wars. BBC on in the gym. They don't seem very happy about Putin saying the whoever hasn't surrendered in the steel plant can stay underground long term. Edited April 21, 2022 by Detournement 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 20 minutes ago, Detournement said: It's exactly the same as Azov doing it for the last few years to ethnic Russians. It's shite but that's what happens in wars. The best thing is to avoid wars. BBC on in the gym. They don't seem very happy about Putin saying the whoever hasn't surrendered in the steel plant can stay underground long term. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 "It wasnae me it was him anaw" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Waldo Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 For anyone interested in the Russian invasion of Ukraine, this YouTube channel looks full-geek informed. Not sure about the accuracy of the details, in particular, the individual named units, but, overall, it looks sound. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eez-eh Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Detournement said: BBC on in the gym. They don't seem very happy about Putin saying the whoever hasn't surrendered in the steel plant can stay underground long term. I can just picture that in the gym - you trying to strike up a conversation with the person on the machine next to you about the fake news media and their anti-Russian agenda, as everyone slowly moves further and further away from you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, eez-eh said: I can just picture that in the gym - you trying to strike up a conversation with the person on the machine next to you about the fake news media and their anti-Russian agenda, as everyone slowly moves further and further away from you. Ah yes. The kind of person who gets on the bus and starts talking about gods, and expresses surprise when all the other passengers get off at the same stop. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Salt n Vinegar said: Ah yes. The kind of person who gets on the bus and starts talking about gods, and expresses surprise when all the other passengers get off at the same stop throw him off while the bus is still moving. Shirley better. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 12 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Shirley better. Maybe so. A bit off topic but I honestly have no idea how I would have reacted if I was stuck on a plane with these folk... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10726463/Plane-passengers-flight-sing-Christian-songs.html Apols for the off topic slant! To go back (nearly) on topic, Wimbledon has banned players from Russia and Belarus this year. I heard some folk on the radio criticising that decision. I don't buy that. If it is felt appropriate to subject the entire population of the Russian Federation - the everyday bloke, woman and kid in the street - to punitive social and economic sanctions, it simply cannot be right that the "famous and powerful" are permitted to continue as if nothing has happened. I heard it said that sportspeople have no way to change Putin's mindset, so they should be left alone. Well neither does your average Russian. They are hit by sanctions. Of course, the tennis decision opens up boundless opportunities for the Forum's favourite pastime - "whataboutery". In my view the Wimbledon decision is quite correct. Let other sporting and other bodies take decisions as they may, and to justify those decisions. Any celebrations by Russia of any success, anywhere, would give me the boak. The idea that a Russian player's victory at any event, let alone the world's foremost tennis event, wouldn’t be lauded from the rooftops in Russia is ridiculous. No. Enough. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 55 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Shirley better. I recall being on a train when somebody started talking to two women from the USA. One of the women was asked what she was studying at university. She replied "Theology and Latin American Studies". There was a long pause. Finally somebody said "Latin American Studies. What's that all about?" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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