welshbairn Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 19 minutes ago, BigDoddyKane said: Is Glen Greenwald classed as right wing now? He certainly seems to have more time for the right than the left these days . Big pals with Tucker Carlson for example. Maybe he's going back to how he started, defending white supremacists while claiming not to agree with them, backing the Iraq war and then recanting and supporting that massive racist and zero welfare advocate Ron Paul. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, Detournement said: The line was drawn in Minsk in 2016 Was that the one where Russia agreed to pull their troops out of the Donbass and stop arming it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 Greenwald has always been on good on freedom of speech and media stuff and pretty much publicly uninterested in anything else. His husband is an MP with an ultra leftist Brazilian Party and he has being talking shit about Lula recently. He has been unreadable on Twitter the past year or so but if Assange actually gets put in trial in the USA I think he'll redeem himself. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Was that the one where Russia agreed to pull their troops out of the Donbass and stop arming it? Dependent on a ceasefire and political autonomy for the DPR and LPR. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 12 minutes ago, Detournement said: It looks more like Ukraine is going to invade Transnistria to attack the Russian forces there (which is obviously fair enough in a war). Then possibly Romanian forces are going to reinforce the Moldovan military to stop anything else kicking off. The line was drawn in Minsk in 2016 and Ukraine and their backers decided to ignore it. There is no off ramp now. Ukraine will continue to fight until they run out of military age men then private military contractors will take over. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 Just now, Detournement said: Dependent on a ceasefire and political autonomy for the DPR and LPR. So chicken and egg then about who broke it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DA Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Detournement said: Russia clearly doesn't have the capacity to go to war in the "whole of Europe" or even western Ukraine. The US goal is to turn Ukraine into a European Afghanistan. They have openly admitted that and that's why Truss has been saying the war will last a decade. Horrific news for Ukranians but great for people who like putting flags in their Twitter and Facebook profiles. Agree with your first sentence. If he declares war, he can mobilise the whole of the armed forces, something he can't do at the moment. But they reckon he's lost around 1,000 tanks in Ukraine leaving him with about 1800 plus any of the mostly older tanks they can get out of storage. EU member states have about 5,000 tanks between them. Of course, tanks aren't everything these days, but supplying Ukraine with ATGMs must have depleted NATO/EU numbers too. Edited May 3, 2022 by The DA 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, welshbairn said: So chicken and egg then about who broke it. There was a period when the fighting largely stopped. There was not an inch given on the political side despite Zelensky being elected to do exactly that. Edited May 3, 2022 by Detournement 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMCs Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 I don't think there is a hope in hell that Russia genuinely mobilises. It would be a political disaster for them and would be no guarantee of a victory at all considering how much time it would take to get the men to the front lines. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 46 minutes ago, Detournement said: he has being talking shit about Lula recently. Good, I've never liked her! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 There are a number of considerations about a Russian mobilisation. It would assist their forces as would obviously increase their manpower but would have significant downsides - it would take months to have an affect, clearly the mobilised troops would be of a lower quality than many of the full time soldiers. Mobilisation wouldn’t have an impact on the material losses suffered by Russia either. Michael Kofman did a podcast this week where he said what analysis of the war really shows is that the Russian Army is short of infantry, a mobilisation could help address that if the mobilised troops were properly equipped, motivated and trained. Politically what mobilisation does is box Putin in - with it being a special operation he can pick and choose what is victory. If he mobilises then he is locked in to a maximalist goal. You can’t Mobilise the whole population and then say that gaining some villages and “liberating” Mariupol is a victory. Also, he clearly doesn’t want to do it, which is why he hasn’t and why the war has been framed as a ‘special operation’. Regarding Transnistria, it doesn’t seem likely that Ukraine are going to move against them but then Russia trying to escalate doesn’t make sense either. The value in the troops stationed there is pretty low - there are about 1500 Russian troops there and 7,500 Transnistrian troops. These are not high quality forces, not likely to make a significant difference to the war. One of the mistakes Russia made was to try and open too many fronts, they are addressing this (to an extent) by focusing on the Donbas, opening a front far away from Russian forces who could support them and potentially pulling in other countries to the war doesn’t seem very clever. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 2 hours ago, Detective Jimmy McNulty said: https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/russia-ukraine-latest-news-2022-05-03/card/pope-says-nato-may-have-provoked-russian-invasion-of-ukraine-E7VAcqXGK8xNoHxJPQFs Turns out the Pope is also a Russia Today stooge and Putin lackey right ? They were provoked. Let me know when yer Pope talks about Hillary Clinton's biolabs, neo-Nazis, false flag operations, and the deep state. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Theroadlesstravelled said: They were provoked. You sound like a Putin apologist. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonytoons Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 Dependent on a ceasefire and political autonomy for the DPR and LPR.Russia's agreements to borders mean nothing.So again, the line needs to be drawn. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Detournement said: It looks more like Ukraine is going to invade Transnistria to attack the Russian forces there (which is obviously fair enough in a war). Then possibly Romanian forces are going to reinforce the Moldovan military to stop anything else kicking off. The line was drawn in Minsk in 2016 and Ukraine and their backers decided to ignore it. There is no off ramp now. Ukraine will continue to fight until they run out of military age men then private military contractors will take over. Clearly. Spoiler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoDiego Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 I don't think there is a hope in hell that Russia genuinely mobilises. It would be a political disaster for them and would be no guarantee of a victory at all considering how much time it would take to get the men to the front lines.That makes sense, but it didn't stop them in Crimea (back in 18whateveritwas). They chucked half a million soon to be dead bodies at it despite being technologically inferior and got skelped. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jagfox Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 Apparently still around 200 civilians in the Azovtal Steel complex. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMCs Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 17 minutes ago, DiegoDiego said: 1 hour ago, DMCs said: I don't think there is a hope in hell that Russia genuinely mobilises. It would be a political disaster for them and would be no guarantee of a victory at all considering how much time it would take to get the men to the front lines. That makes sense, but it didn't stop them in Crimea (back in 18whateveritwas). They chucked half a million soon to be dead bodies at it despite being technologically inferior and got skelped. Vastly different demographic situation. Russia is now a much older country and has less young men to chuck at it. Plus it's generally the young Russians living in major cities that are most opposed to the war. Which is why their current invasion force has more ethnic minorities and folk from the economically struggling peripheries as they have less economic options and they tend to be younger than the population at large. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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