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Russian invasion of Ukraine


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Given the CIA's record, it's no surprise that some posters were dubious about a full scale invasion. Full credit to the spooks though for getting one 50/50 right, makes up for those non existant WMD's I guess.

I mean, these are the guys that are currently claiming Cuban ray guns are giving them sore tummies.

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4 hours ago, renton said:

It's a signal intelligence aircraft. It'll have been sitting out there gathering radar signals, radio etc. Won't be doing photo gathering. That used to be high altitude or very fast aircraft but largely obsolete in the age of satellite imagery.

The airframe is old, the equipment on board is fairly cutting edge.

Yet, Rivet Joint has a nice ability to triangulate signals locations based upon its orbit length. So they’re just sitting out there cataloguing the radar locations, HQ’s, etc…hell, probably even cell phones of interest as identified by other “technical means”. It’s the basic reason that a HQ unit doesn’t locate its antennas close by…if they’re smart.

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It's certainly potentially doable but something a mother would have her 12 year old daughter tag along for? Shows how motivated the Ukrainians are right now if the answer is yes. Think there might be something to this as an explanation:
Suspect it could easily be a few years before we find out for sure what really happened.
9 and half hours I'm struggling to buy - but with 12 year old - no fucking way.

Are we there yet?

Are we there yet?
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1 hour ago, Detournement said:

My main feeling about Dugin is that I doubt Putin has spoken to a man with shoulder length hair or longer at any point in the 21st century. 

Even Seagal ditched the ponytail when he started hanging out in Moscow. 

I bet Patriarch Krill looks like a right hippy with his hat off. 

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The interesting note is that even if Russia holds onto Crimea, they have to find a way to replace the 90% of the water supply that Ukraine cut off after the 2014 invasion. Add to that the majority of the power supply into Crimea has historically been from Ukraine, the area is a millstone around Putin, and Russia’s, neck if Ukraine can fully control the head of the North Crimean Canal.

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7 hours ago, welshbairn said:

I'm not sure if "OK Vladimir, if you really want Crimea you can have it if you just pull your army home and leave us alone." would work.

All stirring stuff I'm sure. But meanwhile, back in the real world, the more that Ukraine's leaders harp on about revising the 2014 borders, the less likely that the European support they're relying on is to hold. None of their populations have yet signed up for a forever war over some post-Soviet possessions, and that's before the catastrophic energy prices kick in. 

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