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Unbelievable stuff coming out of Russia the now. With soldier moral so low you can imagine regulate army jumping on board and siding with the Wagner group. Big worry must be if this is successful with their leader just rit in the big chair game of thrones style and declare himself supreme leader or will he facilitate a democratic handover of power?

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6 minutes ago, TommyDickFingers said:

There are pics of Lukashenko circulating on Turkish telegram channels.

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Any links as I can't find any confirmation..only half truths but not any confirmed sightings 

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4 hours ago, doulikefish said:

The brain trust  will be along soon to tell us that Putin needs to give up Rostov and other parts of Russia to keep Wagner happy 

A majority of folk in south east Ukraine might prefer to cede at least some of the occupied territory to Russia in exchange for a ceasefire. The results of this survey suggest so:

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https://theconversation.com/ukraine-most-people-refuse-to-compromise-on-territory-but-willingness-to-make-peace-depends-on-their-war-experiences-new-survey-185147

A single survey is very far from conclusive plus any survey always carries a margin of error. It did make me think though that we're not hearing the opinions of Ukrainians in the worst-affected areas who can't speak English and don't have Twitter accounts. Thinking among Ukrainians may be a bit more mixed than we sometimes realise. 

Anyway, none of that detracts from your point that uninformed non-Ukrainians confidently prescribing their solutions to the war are annoying. 

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7 minutes ago, stimpy said:

Unbelievable stuff coming out of Russia the now. With soldier moral so low you can imagine regulate army jumping on board and siding with the Wagner group. Big worry must be if this is successful with their leader just rit in the big chair game of thrones style and declare himself supreme leader or will he facilitate a democratic handover of power?


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3 minutes ago, FreedomFarter said:

A majority of folk in south east Ukraine might prefer to cede at least some of the occupied territory to Russia in exchange for a ceasefire. The results of this survey suggest so:

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https://theconversation.com/ukraine-most-people-refuse-to-compromise-on-territory-but-willingness-to-make-peace-depends-on-their-war-experiences-new-survey-185147

A single survey is very far from conclusive plus any survey always carries a margin of error. It did make me think though that we're not hearing the opinions of Ukrainians in the worst-affected areas who can't speak English and don't have Twitter accounts. Thinking among Ukrainians may be a bit more mixed than we sometimes realise. 

Anyway, none of that detracts from your point that uninformed non-Ukrainians confidently prescribing their solutions to the war are annoying. 

Try that survey again now when the Russians are fighting each other like rats in a sack. 

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19 minutes ago, bennett said:

Surely with Wagner waging their coup this is the perfect time for a counter offensive and the west to up their support for Ukraine. 

 

"Moves like Wagner" song every time I read his name.

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20 minutes ago, stimpy said:

Unbelievable stuff coming out of Russia the now. With soldier moral so low you can imagine regulate army jumping on board and siding with the Wagner group. Big worry must be if this is successful with their leader just rit in the big chair game of thrones style and declare himself supreme leader or will he facilitate a democratic handover of power?

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