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2 hours ago, Hillonearth said:

The utterly toe-curling Christine Sixteen by Kiss.

Even Gene Simmons had the self-awareness to stop playing the thing....

She's got me dizzy
She sees me through to the end
She's got me in her hands
And there's no use in pretending
Christine, sixteen
Christine, sixteen
She drives me crazy
I want to give her what I've got
And she's hot every day and night
There is no doubt about it
I don't usually say things
Like this to girls your age
(Christine, sixteen)
But when I saw you coming
Out of the school that day
That day I knew, I knew
I've got to have you, I've got to have you
(Christine, sixteen)
She's been around
But she's young and clean
I've got to have her
Can't live without her, whoa no
Christine, sixteen
 

Easy to see where Metalocalypse got their inspiration for the character Dr Rockso.

 

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17 minutes ago, Hillonearth said:

A couple that stood out even in 70s company were Mixed Blessings which was about an interracial couple and the "problems" their relationship caused, and of course the daddy of them all, Love Thy Neighbour...

I don't remember that one at all.

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Not sure Eazy-E’s vignette about raping and mutilating a transgender employee during an armed robbery would see the light of day these days.

But back to the bitches I'm peepin'
And then untie the hoe, so I can start creepin'
Took her to the backroom, about to jack
Cold trailed the bitch, with a gun in her back
I said: "Lay down, and unbutton your bra!"
There was the biggest titties that a nigga ever saw
I said: "Damn", then the air got thinner
Only thought in my mind, was goin' up in her
The suspense was makin' me sick
She took her panties down and the bitch had a dick
I said: "Damn", dropped the gat from my hand
(What I thought was a bitch, was nothing but a man)
Put the gat to his legs, all the way up his skirt
Because this is one faggot that I had to hurt

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43 minutes ago, Hillonearth said:

A couple that stood out even in 70s company were Mixed Blessings which was about an interracial couple and the "problems" their relationship caused, and of course the daddy of them all, Love Thy Neighbour...

Surely the left wing racist was outdone by Curry and Chips ? I can't even name the main character's nickname !

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Ted Nugent- Intensities in 10 Cities.

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A track called "Jailbait" is followed by a track called "I am a predator".

Jailbait has some pretty dodgy lyrics, including: "Well, I don’t care if you’re just thirteen, you look too good to be true" and "Wait a minute, officer, don’t put those handcuffs on me / Put them on her and I’ll share her with you".

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1 hour ago, VincentGuerin said:

I remember when this song was talked about in my office ages ago some people saying this.

Interestingly, not one of the women in the office agreed it was rapey. Raunchy, a bit forward, a bit cheeky etc was the tone of how they all saw it.

I'd never heard the song before (well, I'd heard it but didn't know what it was and had no idea what the lyrics were) and now find it hard to decide how much my opinion of it is coloured by that conversation, but now whenever I hear it I can kind of see where they were coming from. Don't know, really.

 

That’s fair enough, I suppose art tends to attract an infinite number of interpretations; and even in the fairly short time since this song was released attitudes in society have changed.
 

I think the song title alone, however, points towards an attitude which has since been shown to be coercive, manipulative and used to justify malignant behaviour. It even strikes very close to the actions of a certain pair of Scottish footballers, but that’s maybe not a great route to take this conversation down. 

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3 hours ago, scottsdad said:

Don't know if anyone has read the Ian Fleming short story "Quantum of Solace" (1959)- no relation to the movie. It is his attempt at a romance story, and addresses a sex scene by starting with "all women love semi-rape". 

Would never be published now. 

 

3 hours ago, Hillonearth said:

He was in possession of some weird ideas - in one of the early Bond novels he also expounded a theory that homosexuals are unable to whistle.

When Connery first met him he thought he was a p***k.

"Goldfinger" is particularly unpleasant reading. Bond's/Fleming's views on race, homosexuality, women having the vote (the latter 2 are linked) and rape are all given an outing. Just one example: Pussy Galore is a lesbian because she was molested as a child but a decent pumping by oor Jum and she's right back to normal. Hurrah!

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The Mothers of Invention - Magdalena

 

A song about a middle aged man who sexually assaulted his teenage daughter...

 

There was a man
A little ole man
Who lived in Montreal
With a wife and a kid
And a car and a house
And a teenage daughter
With a see-thru blouse
Who loved to grunt and ball
And her name was Magdalena
Magdalena
The little ole man
Came home one night
To his house in Montreal.
He caught his daughter
In the blouse by the light
And he said to himself:
"She looks all right!"
And he reached for a tit
And grabbed it tight
And threw her up
Against the wall
(Blue cross!)
Magdalena
My daughter dear, do not be concerned
When your Canadian daddy comes near.
My daughter dear, do not be concerned
When your Canadian daddy comes near.
I work so hard, don't you understand
Making maple syrup for the pancakes of our land.
Do you have any idea?
What that can do to a man?
What that can do to a man?
Do you have any idea?
What that can do to a man?
What that can do to a man?
The little ole man
With the grubby little hand
Who lived in Montreal
Was drooling a bit
As he reached for her tit
And he said to himself:
"This is gonna be it!"
But the girl turned around
And said: "Go eat shit!"
And ran on down the hall.
Right on, Magdalena!
My daughter dear, do not be concerned
When your Canadian daddy comes near.
My daughter dear, do not be concerned
When your Canadian daddy comes near.
I work so hard, don't you understand
Making maple syrup for the pancakes of our land.
Do you have any idea?
What that can do to a man?
What that can do to a man?
Do you have any idea?
What that can do to a man?
What that can do to a man?
(Tell 'em!)
Magdalena, don't you tease me like this
Right in the hallway with your blouse and your tits
If your mommy ever finds us like this
She'll call a lawyer, oh how mom will be pissed
DOODLE-OODLE-OODLE DOOT-DOO DEE-OOH
DOODLE-OODLE-OODLE DOOT-DOO DEE-OOH
DOODLE-OODLE-OODLE DOOT-DOO DEE-OOH
DOODLE-OODLE-OODLE DOOT-DOO DEE-OOH-WAH...
Magdalena, Magdalena, Magdalena, Magdalena,
Daughter of the smog-filled winds of Los Angeles,
I'd like to take you in the closet and take off your little clothes until you are virtually stark raving nude,
Spread mayonaise
And kaopectate all over your body and take you down to Hollywood Boulevard and we can,
We can walk down the streets by the stars that say Jon Provost and Leo G. Carroll together, baby.
We can go dancing up at the Cinegrill
Can't you see it: Frank Pernell and us, until dark,
Don't you understand, my baby?
I didn't mean, I didn't need, I mean, it was so hard for me, I just...
I saw you standing under the Shell pest strip late last night,
In the light,
With your little nipples protruding through your little see-thru thingie, and I just said, "My god,
My god, I gave my sperm to this thing!" And now I just,
Oh, you got me so hard, I just,
I don't know what to do, Magdalena, don't you understand? So I grabbed you, but,
But don't hold it against me, I mean,
Your mom will never know, baby, and I wantcha to come back to me,
I mean, do you understand me? I want you to...
I'm down on my knees to ya, Magdalena! I wantcha ta walk back to me, baby,
I wantcha to turn around by the Sparkletts machine.
That's it! That's it! In the little chartreuse hallway with the little neon Jesus picture on the wall,
And I want you to step, baby,
I want you to walk back in your five inch spike heels that you got at Frederick's,
Same time you and your mommy got that crotchless underwear last year for Christmas,
And I want you to stroll back to me, baby
Walk back, baby, don'tcha understand me, baby?
I want you to walk back
I'm down on bended knees, baby
I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I wanna take off your little training bra
Don't you understand me?
I'm gonna take off you little maroon hot pants
I'm gonna get down on my knees, baby, dont'cha understand what I'm saying to you?
Your mom will never know, she's playing bridge with the girls,
And you and I...
You and I go sucking som'thing, baby,
It's just you and I, don'tcha understand?
We can make love all night long,
Nobody will ever know,
Come on, Magdalena!
Please, little girl,
Walk back to your daddy,
What did I do that was so wrong?
My God, I was only following the sexual impulse like I heard on the Johnny Carson Show from a book or something I wrote,
I didn't know what I was doing
I got carried away
What can I say like, like...
Walk back, baby,
Come on,
Oh, please, you gotta walk back, baby, walk back,
Walk back to your daddy!
Come on, Magdalena, to your daddy, baby, you gotta walk back, baby, walk back,
Walk back, baby, walk back,
Your mom will never know,
Your mom will never know,
Walk back, baby, walk back,
Walk back, baby, walk back,
Magdalena, come back,
Come back to you daddy,
Walk back, baby,
Walk back, baby,
Walk,
Walk,
Walk,
Walk,
WALK!
Walk to your daddy,
Come on down, stroll it around of me,
I'm down on my knees, don't you understand?
Your mom will never know,
I told you so...
(I love you, Magdalena!)
You know what...
I said...
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4 hours ago, coprolite said:

The Macc Lads song about Live Aid. 

Kevin Bloody Wilson, living next door to Abos. 

Woke snowflake blah blah. 

Still singing songs like Don't touch your sister she's mine.... i am not sure Kevin Wilson cares what people think.

 

can't imagine people like Roy Chubby Brown getting a start in comedy nowadays. I'm not a fan but he was pulling in 1000's for his semi recent tours. Pretty sure he was touring last year as a venue cancelled on him.

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Brasseye. I know it was very satirical and parodied the media and Chris Morris is an intelligent guy who knew what he was doing, but I wonder if any network would be brave enough to air something like that now. I've not come across anything like that program since...

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5 minutes ago, steelmen said:

Still singing songs like Don't touch your sister she's mine.... i am not sure Kevin Wilson cares what people think.

 

can't imagine people like Roy Chubby Brown getting a start in comedy nowadays. I'm not a fan but he was pulling in 1000's for his semi recent tours. Pretty sure he was touring last year as a venue cancelled on him.

I’m not a fan either. I’d like to think in a free world that different forms of comedy are not outlawed.

I’ve no doubt that Billy Connolly’s Crucifixion gag would be met with the same derision from Pastor Jack Glass types and possibly more extreme punishments in other parts of the world, but humour keeps many of us sane. 

Being able to find humour in the darkest of situations is probably keeping many Ukrainians going right now even though their lives are on the line. There are some people complaining that Ukrainians are playing music over these military film shots of battlefield action. 

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2 hours ago, VincentGuerin said:

I remember when this song was talked about in my office ages ago some people saying this.

Interestingly, not one of the women in the office agreed it was rapey. Raunchy, a bit forward, a bit cheeky etc was the tone of how they all saw it.

I'd never heard the song before (well, I'd heard it but didn't know what it was and had no idea what the lyrics were) and now find it hard to decide how much my opinion of it is coloured by that conversation, but now whenever I hear it I can kind of see where they were coming from. Don't know, really.

 

I’d probably agree that I don’t find it rapey, more off putting in a misogynistic or toxic male ego type way. I mean that kind of language would be the biggest turn-off ever and any woman would be like ‘Don’t tell me what I want you fucking dickhead’.

I remember talking about it in the office as well when it came out and saying that basically “You know you want it” is only true if IT = getting out of the shithole nightclub and going home, getting into your pyjamas, drinking hot chocolate and reading my book.

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2 hours ago, Bert Raccoon said:

You could argue One In A Million by Guns n Roses bit tbh, I don't think that was acceptable at the time either 

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One, two, one, two, three, four
Guess I needed some time to get away
I needed some peace of mind
Some peace of mind that'll stay 
So I thumbed it down to sixth in L.A.
Maybe a Greyhound could be my way 
Police and niggers, that's right 
Get outta my way
Don't need to buy none of your 
Gold chains today
Now don't need no bracelets 
Clamped in front of my back
Just need my ticket, 'til then
Won't you cut me some slack
You're one in a million
Yeah that's what you are
You're one in a million babe
You're a shooting star
Maybe some day we'll see you
Before you make us cry
You know we tried to reach you
But you were much to high
Much too high
Much too high
Much too high
Immigrants and faggots
They make no sense to me
They come to our country 
And think they'll do as they please
Like start some mini-Iran
Or spread some fucking disease
And they talk so many goddamn ways
It's all Greek to me
Well some say I'm lazy
And others say that's just me
Some say I'm crazy
I guess I'll always be
But it's been such a long time
Since I knew right from wrong
It's all the means to and end and
I keep it moving along
Hey, hey, hey, yeah
You're one in a million
You're a shooting star
You're one in a million babe
You know that you are
Maybe someday we'll see you
Before you make us cry
You know we tried to reach you
But you were much too high
Much too high 
Much too high
Much too high
Radicals and racists
Don't point your finger at me
I'm a small town white boy
Just tryin' to make ends meet
Don't need your religion 
Don't watch that much TV
Just makin' my livin' baby 
Well that's enough for me
You're one in a million
Yeah that's what you are
You're one in a million babe
You're a shooting star
Maybe some day we'll see you
Before you make us cry
You know we tried to reach you
But you were much too high
Much too high yeah, yeah, yeah
Much too high
Much too high 
Much too high yeah, yeah, yeah
Much too high 
Much too high
Much too high 
Much too high
Much too high 
Much too high

 

This was criticised a fair bit when it came out. Still got distributed by a big label though. 

Always reminds me of the White Trash comics, with Axl Rose and Elvis driving around the south being rednecks. 

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5 hours ago, btb said:

I think King Louie's portrayal in the fillum is also beyond the pale these days - hell you could probably pick half a dozen of Disney's early animated fillums.

King Louie is absolutely fine, because it's obviously not a portrayal of black people at all. King Louie's animation and persona is based on the act of the voice actor, Louis Prima, who was an Italian American Jazz singer with a rather whimsical act, with no racial overtones.

Here's some footage of him in action from a few years prior

 

That's not so say that there aren't other Disney films which had problems (Song of the South and the crows in Dumbo spring to mind), but they get a pass for King Louie.

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I read (well, listened to the audio book) of Stephen King’s It recently. Every description of a schoolgirl described what was/wasn’t under her shirt. The 11 year old getting gang banged and comparing the performances of her male pals might not fly these days.

 

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