HoBNob Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 Ach find Cowdenbeaths voting, and the fan reaction on here dissapointing. They should be as aware as any fan base about the role a football club has in a community, and how the B teams are a slap in the face of that. I presume that's why they have voted against that in the past. The reasons given by the board at that fan meeting are a nonsense, talk of forcing this conference through is a nonsense, it's not happening without the support of the clubs, how on earth was it going to happen before next season? With only 10/11? clubs voting for it, it's pretty obvious other clubs had the gumption to see the empty threats for what they were. The reaction of Cowdenbeath fans has also been pretty sad, talks of how good it was having Rangers B through the season, talk of being dissapointed with the vote while doing absolutely nothing to hold there club to account. Expected better. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowdenleith Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 23 minutes ago, Grant228 said: Ach find Cowdenbeaths voting, and the fan reaction on here dissapointing. They should be as aware as any fan base about the role a football club has in a community, and how the B teams are a slap in the face of that. I presume that's why they have voted against that in the past. The reasons given by the board at that fan meeting are a nonsense, talk of forcing this conference through is a nonsense, it's not happening without the support of the clubs, how on earth was it going to happen before next season? With only 10/11? clubs voting for it, it's pretty obvious other clubs had the gumption to see the empty threats for what they were. The reaction of Cowdenbeath fans has also been pretty sad, talks of how good it was having Rangers B through the season, talk of being dissapointed with the vote while doing absolutely nothing to hold there club to account. Expected better. You’re a bit late to the party with this, it’s been done to death in this thread and others. You might get a response on the B teams thread still, but even there life has moved on a bit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowden Cowboy Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Grant228 said: Ach find Cowdenbeaths voting, and the fan reaction on here dissapointing. They should be as aware as any fan base about the role a football club has in a community, and how the B teams are a slap in the face of that. I presume that's why they have voted against that in the past. The reasons given by the board at that fan meeting are a nonsense, talk of forcing this conference through is a nonsense, it's not happening without the support of the clubs, how on earth was it going to happen before next season? With only 10/11? clubs voting for it, it's pretty obvious other clubs had the gumption to see the empty threats for what they were. The reaction of Cowdenbeath fans has also been pretty sad, talks of how good it was having Rangers B through the season, talk of being dissapointed with the vote while doing absolutely nothing to hold there club to account. Expected better. Although you only have a second hand perspective on what was said and there is a great deal more to matters than you maybe perceive. You seem to think that every potential move should be telegraphed for the world to see. B teams should never have been voted in - genie out the bottle. We still don’t believe B teams should be included. B teams for another season isn’t Armageddon though - simply saying certain things can’t happen is a bit like saying Rangers are a new club - the law said they aren’t! You need to build a united front to get anywhere. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsedToGoToCentralPark Posted April 23, 2023 Author Share Posted April 23, 2023 12 minutes ago, Cowden Cowboy said: We still don’t believe B teams should be included. Yet you voted for them to be included for another year. Tinpot. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowden Cowboy Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 20 minutes ago, UsedToGoToCentralPark said: Yet you voted for them to be included for another year. Tinpot. Well you can get involved with the new trust and try and shape things going forward in line with your views 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsedToGoToCentralPark Posted April 23, 2023 Author Share Posted April 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, Cowden Cowboy said: Well you can get involved with the new trust and try and shape things going forward in line with your views If you'd voted against B Teams then 100% I would have, now not too sure. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoBNob Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 3 hours ago, Cowden Cowboy said: Although you only have a second hand perspective on what was said and there is a great deal more to matters than you maybe perceive. You seem to think that every potential move should be telegraphed for the world to see. B teams should never have been voted in - genie out the bottle. We still don’t believe B teams should be included. B teams for another season isn’t Armageddon though - simply saying certain things can’t happen is a bit like saying Rangers are a new club - the law said they aren’t! You need to build a united front to get anywhere. If you beleive that B teams shouldn't be admitted then you probably shouldn't have voted for them. It's just empty rhetoric otherwise. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowden Cowboy Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 Just now, Grant228 said: If you beleive that B teams shouldn't be admitted then you probably shouldn't have voted for them. It's just empty rhetoric otherwise. No it’s a considered step based on a fuller level of information and a wider perspective both tactical and strategic. I am sure though you will find that empty rhetoric but ‘just say no’ is a pretty one dimensional approach to a 3-d issue. Consider for example does the pyramid and the clubs in it outwith the SPFL have a united approach to issues and a real zeal for the pyramid as opposed to what used to be? SPFL 1 & 2 clubs found there was strength in cooperation by coalescing round a single viewpoint. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoBNob Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, Cowden Cowboy said: No it’s a considered step based on a fuller level of information and a wider perspective both tactical and strategic. I am sure though you will find that empty rhetoric but ‘just say no’ is a pretty one dimensional approach to a 3-d issue. Oh, it's a total load of nonsense, an utter load of nonsense. There's no tactical or strategic thinking here, it's the absolute opposite of that. Do you genuinely beleive a league could be rustled up in 10 weeks? Within the league structure? Christ, you'd be lucky to get that in for next season. The "3-d issue" here is that clubs have voted yes for the extra coin, and are either hiding behind the reasons which is cowardly, or (which I'd be even more concerned about) they actually beleive these empty threats. What strategic advantage are you getting from letting the B teams in for another year? By letting them become more established at this level? What more can be achieved next summer that can't have been achieved this summer? What level of tactical thinking was involved with that masterstroke? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowden Cowboy Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 10 minutes ago, Grant228 said: Oh, it's a total load of nonsense, an utter load of nonsense. There's no tactical or strategic thinking here, it's the absolute opposite of that. Do you genuinely beleive a league could be rustled up in 10 weeks? Within the league structure? Christ, you'd be lucky to get that in for next season. The "3-d issue" here is that clubs have voted yes for the extra coin, and are either hiding behind the reasons which is cowardly, or (which I'd be even more concerned about) they actually beleive these empty threats. What strategic advantage are you getting from letting the B teams in for another year? By letting them become more established at this level? What more can be achieved next summer that can't have been achieved this summer? What level of tactical thinking was involved with that masterstroke? Ok you have fixed viewpoint so won’t bother with debate - you know all the answers and we all wear white hats or black hats. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoBNob Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 13 minutes ago, Cowden Cowboy said: Ok you have fixed viewpoint so won’t bother with debate - you know all the answers and we all wear white hats or black hats. Oh I absolutely have a fixed viewpoint, and it's pretty firmly on there being no B teams. It's a shame the Cowdenbeath board weren't a bit more fixed eh? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowden Cowboy Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 7 minutes ago, Grant228 said: Oh I absolutely have a fixed viewpoint, and it's pretty firmly on there being no B teams. It's a shame the Cowdenbeath board weren't a bit more fixed eh? it’s a shame that others opened the door to them in the first place. Fixed viewpoints tend to be those of extremists such as the Brexiteers -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spyro Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, Cowden Cowboy said: it’s a shame that others opened the door to them in the first place. Fixed viewpoints tend to be those of extremists such as the Brexiteers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 11 hours ago, Grant228 said: Oh, it's a total load of nonsense, an utter load of nonsense. There's no tactical or strategic thinking here, it's the absolute opposite of that. Do you genuinely beleive a league could be rustled up in 10 weeks? Within the league structure? Christ, you'd be lucky to get that in for next season. The "3-d issue" here is that clubs have voted yes for the extra coin, and are either hiding behind the reasons which is cowardly, or (which I'd be even more concerned about) they actually beleive these empty threats. What strategic advantage are you getting from letting the B teams in for another year? By letting them become more established at this level? What more can be achieved next summer that can't have been achieved this summer? What level of tactical thinking was involved with that masterstroke? It's not just about the money, if they play nice they might just get an invite into the exclusive new shiny conference league! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bollan Ball Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 New show We discuss: End of season awards Fan Meeting Wrapping up the campaign Early predictions for 23/24 Shares appreciated Listen here: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-coo-shed/episodes/Back-in-the-Coo-Shed-e2313p2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowdenMiners1204 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 13 hours ago, Bollan Ball said: New show We discuss: End of season awards Fan Meeting Wrapping up the campaign Early predictions for 23/24 Shares appreciated Listen here: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-coo-shed/episodes/Back-in-the-Coo-Shed-e2313p2 Took in the Haws / Swifts game last night. First time at Keirs Park and I think it's a great little stadium. A few good players on show. Cowdenbeath could do with something like that but a seated stand on one side. The secretary said a ground share probably wouldn't happen with them though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdenbeath Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 3 hours ago, CowdenMiners1204 said: Took in the Haws / Swifts game last night. First time at Keirs Park and I think it's a great little stadium. A few good players on show. Cowdenbeath could do with something like that but a seated stand on one side. The secretary said a ground share probably wouldn't happen with them though. I was there last night, Haws were dire by the end sadly relegation written all over them. It is a good wee ground but the pitch certainly wouldn't cope with a groundshare. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzler Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 1 minute ago, cowdenbeath said: I was there last night, Haws were dire by the end sadly relegation written all over them. It is a good wee ground but the pitch certainly wouldn't cope with a groundshare. the pitch cant even cope with just the Haws playing on it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 5 minutes ago, cowdenbeath said: I was there last night, Haws were dire by the end sadly relegation written all over them. It is a good wee ground but the pitch certainly wouldn't cope with a groundshare. I was there too. After having the better of the first half, Haws couldn't cope with Swifts work rate in the middle of the park and defensively with balls over the top in the 2nd half. The ground has always been susceptible to becoming waterlogged in the winter months, then very bumpy after it dries out. Really needs to be dug up and a new base layer and drainage put in place. It won't happen of course, because of the costs involved. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdenbeath Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 10 minutes ago, bobbydazzler said: the pitch cant even cope with just the Haws playing on it Exactly! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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