Skyline Drifter Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Swarley said: I see Cove have punted Jim McIntyre (apologies if previously discussed). Should we be afraid or interested? His win % from his tenure with QoS was 46.3% (according to Wikipedia) which isn't awful, but I can't recall if the standard of play was deemed entertaining? A 46% win percentage is very good rather than 'not awful', especially when you consider it was achieved at Championship level. The football was good in my opinion. You'll get polarised opinions. @Monkey Tennis among others detested him, felt he tinkered unnecessarily with Allan Johnston's double winning team, and achieved what he did in spite of himself rather than through genuinely taking the club forward. Others, including me, would say he was one of the most driven and professional managers we ever had and was largely eventually proven correct on the tinkering he did. He had a great eye for a player. He turned Iain Russell into a winger rather than centre forward, he stopped Ian McShane from leaving the club and turned him into the linchpin of our midfield. He brought in Mark Kerr. He brought in Andy Dowie who though he had a poor 1st 3 or 4 months went on to be probably our best centre back in the last decade (or at least the best one who wasnt on loan from St Johnstone). And after a false start with Calum Antell he also brought in Zander Clark. James Fowler probably got more out of them in the 2nd season but it was largely the team McIntyre rebuilt. That said, it can be argued that it took a while to get up to speed and the season he had in charge was one where we should have been 4th and were, and only got clear of a part time Dumbarton side to clinch 4th in the last few games. We never seriously threatened the top 3 of Dundee, Hamilton and Falkirk all season and lost to Falkirk in the playoffs despite leading 3-1 with 45 mins left of the 2nd leg. And despite doing well early on with Ross County and winning them the League Cup, he eventually lost favour there and his stint at Dundee was disastrous (wrong club, fans never wanted him). He hasnt set the heather on fire at Cove either though despite losing 6-1 at the weekend, it hasnt been awful either (think they've only lost 2 in 10) and his sacking does on the face of it look a lot like making way for Hartley's return than any genuinely awful performance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swarley Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Gary Naysmith out of any possible contention as he signs for Stenhousemuir. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Grimm Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 McIntyre 100% improved us after Johnstone went to Killie, I don't really think that's up for debate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudleyghu Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 11 hours ago, Skyline Drifter said: I'm just waiting on tenterhooks for the knock at the door from the police. Should I go on the run do you think? I didnt get any fake plastic moustache in this year's Xmas crackers No one said the police were coming to your door? Stop being so childish. I was getting at the fact that you’ve already been warned for running back to P&B with gossip for little greenies so obviously and understandably you’ll now be left in the dark on a lot of important matters that us big boys have to deal with. Anyway, manager announced today boys, then 2 players announced today or tomorrow with 1 being a loan. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fae_the_'briggs Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Think McIntyres "sacking" at Cove may have come a bit too late for him to be in the running here, although maybe it wasn't a secret within football that he was going. We are probably a bit far down the line now (hopefully) in appointing a Manager to include new prospects. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otis Blue Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 7 hours ago, Skyline Drifter said: ... We never seriously threatened the top 3 of Dundee, Hamilton and Falkirk all season and lost to Falkirk in the playoffs despite leading 3-1 with 45 mins left of the 2nd leg... Aye we blew that big time. Was a real shame as wee Bob Harris had scored a cracker (free kick I think it was) to put us 3-1 up in the tie. We had a decent support up there that day. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qos_75 Posted January 4, 2023 Author Share Posted January 4, 2023 15 minutes ago, Dudleyghu said: No one said the police were coming to your door? Stop being so childish. I was getting at the fact that you’ve already been warned for running back to P&B with gossip for little greenies so obviously and understandably you’ll now be left in the dark on a lot of important matters that us big boys have to deal with. Anyway, manager announced today boys, then 2 players announced today or tomorrow with 1 being a loan. So who turned the job down after a contract was agreed? Who is the new manager to be announced later today? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Doonhamer Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Otis Blue said: Aye we blew that big time. Was a real shame as wee Bob Harris had scored a cracker (free kick I think it was) to put us 3-1 up in the tie. We had a decent support up there that day. The free kick Harris scored at Falkirk was in a Scottish Cup tie. Pretty sure Bob McHugh scored the goal that put us 3-1 up on aggregate in the play off tie. Edited January 4, 2023 by Distant Doonhamer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otis Blue Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Just now, Distant Doonhamer said: The free kick Harris scored at Falkirk was in a Scottish Cup tie. Bob McHugh scored the goal that put us 3-1 up on aggregate in the play off tie. Me and my memory ... again! Note to self, must check the records before posting shite! Cheers. Was at both games too, remember going mental when wee Bob's FK went in - great wee player. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, Distant Doonhamer said: The free kick Harris scored at Falkirk was in a Scottish Cup tie. Bob McHugh scored the goal that put us 3-1 up on aggregate in the play off tie. Yeah Bob McHugh scored all of our goals in that tie. More or less all he ever did for us. One league goal v Dumbarton and three playoff goals v Falkirk in a week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Yes, McHugh turned and knocked one in from 5 or 6 yards out, middle of the goal. KM7 end. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 57 minutes ago, Dudleyghu said: I was getting at the fact that you’ve already been warned for running back to P&B with gossip... Anyway, manager announced today boys, then 2 players announced today or tomorrow with 1 being a loan. Good to see you're not making those same mistakes though, eh?... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 8 hours ago, Skyline Drifter said: A 46% win percentage is very good rather than 'not awful', especially when you consider it was achieved at Championship level. The football was good in my opinion. You'll get polarised opinions. @Monkey Tennis among others detested him, felt he tinkered unnecessarily with Allan Johnston's double winning team, and achieved what he did in spite of himself rather than through genuinely taking the club forward. Others, including me, would say he was one of the most driven and professional managers we ever had and was largely eventually proven correct on the tinkering he did. He had a great eye for a player. He turned Iain Russell into a winger rather than centre forward, he stopped Ian McShane from leaving the club and turned him into the linchpin of our midfield. He brought in Mark Kerr. He brought in Andy Dowie who though he had a poor 1st 3 or 4 months went on to be probably our best centre back in the last decade (or at least the best one who wasnt on loan from St Johnstone). And after a false start with Calum Antell he also brought in Zander Clark. James Fowler probably got more out of them in the 2nd season but it was largely the team McIntyre rebuilt. That said, it can be argued that it took a while to get up to speed and the season he had in charge was one where we should have been 4th and were, and only got clear of a part time Dumbarton side to clinch 4th in the last few games. We never seriously threatened the top 3 of Dundee, Hamilton and Falkirk all season and lost to Falkirk in the playoffs despite leading 3-1 with 45 mins left of the 2nd leg. And despite doing well early on with Ross County and winning them the League Cup, he eventually lost favour there and his stint at Dundee was disastrous (wrong club, fans never wanted him). He hasnt set the heather on fire at Cove either though despite losing 6-1 at the weekend, it hasnt been awful either (think they've only lost 2 in 10) and his sacking does on the face of it look a lot like making way for Hartley's return than any genuinely awful performance. That's a pretty fair assessment of our respective stances. I think that season probably represented our best chance, and a poor early spell, characterised by unnecessary tinkering, kept us clear of contention. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Otis Blue said: Aye we blew that big time. Was a real shame as wee Bob Harris had scored a cracker (free kick I think it was) to put us 3-1 up in the tie. We had a decent support up there that day. As others have said, your timeline's a bit wonky. If my memory serves - a fairly big if these days - we lined up against our rumoured new manager in the 'Bob Harris Cup tie'. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Nesovic's Barmy Army Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 9 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: As others have said, your timeline's a bit wonky. If my memory serves - a fairly big if these days - we lined up against our rumoured new manager in the 'Bob Harris Cup tie'. Gary Holt? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otis Blue Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: As others have said, your timeline's a bit wonky. And as I have acknowledged ... my timeline's a bit wonky ... and not for the first time! Edited January 4, 2023 by Otis Blue 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otis Blue Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, Alex Nesovic's Barmy Army said: Gary Holt? Just please ... naw. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Nesovic's Barmy Army Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Otis Blue said: Just please ... naw. There does seem a criteria for some on here that they have to have previously managed us: Fowler, MacIntryre and Naysmith within the last week. Not that Holt meets that. Edited January 4, 2023 by Alex Nesovic's Barmy Army -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Alex Nesovic's Barmy Army said: Gary Holt? No, the guy mentioned in the New Manager thread yesterday. SD has wisely deleted his confused response, featuring bizarre references to the likes of Chisholm. Edited January 4, 2023 by Monkey Tennis 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: No, the guy mentioned in the New Manager thread yesterday. SD has wisely deleted his confused response, featuring bizarre references to the likes of Chisholm. I completely misunderstood your point. I thought you were saying at the time we were playing against someone expected to be our new manager then. It was only later I realised you meant McCann. It really wasn't clear. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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