dingdong1929 Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 (edited) What do you think of Brian McLean? Apparently he is training with us. Never looked good enough for us, but the majority of our defence was honking for the majority of last season. He did have some good games, but was found wanting quite a lot of the time. Not great pace, not great positioning, not great user of the ball, but a big physical CB who will put in a shift. Maybe with a decent solid system around him and some confidence he'll be alright, but with us he looked a Bottom 6 player at best. Would like to see him do ok, but obviously not at the expense of us staying up! Edited November 21, 2014 by dingdong1929 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted November 21, 2014 Author Share Posted November 21, 2014 (edited) What do you think of Brian McLean? Apparently he is training with us. Edited November 21, 2014 by yoda 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staggie_93 Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 What do you think of Brian McLean? Apparently he is training with us. Absolutely all over the place for the most part and would lunge into tackles and miss half the time. Horrendous. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingdong1929 Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 I wouldnt argue with any of the less diplomatic posts... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staggie_93 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 So that's big Jimmy Fenlon punted, what an absolute disaster of a player he was. It was doomed from the start with a name like that.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartTaylor Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Yet Wimbledon fans reckoned he was too good for Scotland, their player of the year and wanted a better deal than they could afford? Hmm. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staggie_93 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Aye a find it hard to believe they were touting him for a championship team. He looked well out of his depth (admittedly the majority of the team did) and I honestly don't think he put in one tackle in his 6 games. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartTaylor Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Happy anniversary to Tommy Ross yesterday. http://m.fifa.com/newscentre/news/newsid=2480211/index.html 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted December 2, 2014 Author Share Posted December 2, 2014 Erm... ouch? http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/bawled-treated-like-servants--4730659 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 My word. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tintax Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Wish I could say I'm surprised by that Record article but I'm not. It just confirms how much of an arse Adams was 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capital_stag Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Adams is an arse, but you also need to remember these guys were just not performing either. MDL being the exception at times. Hopefully we can move on from this now. We have heard enough 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P45 Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Offt. I don't see how Adams can work again in Scotland. Shame 'cause I wanted him to go to Motherwell. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forfinn Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Yet Wimbledon fans reckoned he was too good for Scotland, their player of the year and wanted a better deal than they could afford? Hmm. I sound a bit like a broken record on this, but basically, League 2 isn't as good as the Scottish Premiership. I went to see Carlisle vs Luton on the first day of the season - it should have showcased the best of the league as Carlisle had just been relegated from League 1 and Luton were promoted after romping the Conference and are now flying high. The quality was dire. Carlisle were agricultural at best and whilst Luton tried hard and at least attempted to play passing football, they weren't very good at it. So whilst Fenlon might well have been a shining light in League 2 last year, it's apparent he couldn't make the step up to a higher level at this stage in his career. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 A lot of that will not be new to a lot of people. The Adams family, for all their success, had become a cancer to our club and were slowly killing it from the inside. The attitudes described in that article weren't just limited to the players, it was symptomatic of how they dealt with everyone at the club... including even the Chairman. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingdong1929 Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 A lot of that will not be new to a lot of people. The Adams family, for all their success, had become a cancer to our club and were slowly killing it from the inside. The attitudes described in that article weren't just limited to the players, it was symptomatic of how they dealt with everyone at the club... including even the Chairman. I think some of the tone and language used by Adams in interviews since shows that, some of it was quite arrogant and dismissive of others involved at the club. That's him in diplomatic mode in the media getting his side across, wtf was he like behind closed doors after a narrow loss to St Johnstone? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Who would have guessed Adams was a bellend? Err everyone! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingdong1929 Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Who would have guessed Adams was a bellend? Err everyone! True. Just it's looking like instead of a bellend, he was a bellend, a scrote, and everything in between. Apart from Shaft, because Shaft is cool. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkboy Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Yeah, I'm not surprised that Derek & George were fucking eejits. But “I don’t think I've ever met such terrible people in football as Derek and George Adams. It was impossible to have a normal conversation with them." is pretty damning. I mean it's just basic shit. I really don't understand how he managed to get the team behind him in that incredible First Division winning season, or the first year in the SPL. The players must have bought into it but I certainly know how I'd react to a boss like that. And it'd not be positive, at best I'd keep my head down and do the bare minimum effort-wise. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 I would imagine that it was very easy for Adams to stay calm when his team is winning every week. There was always reports of communication failures between Adams and individual players. He was compared what he was doing with Sir Alex Ferguson, but Man United were a huge club that could get away with ostracising a player, as they had players of similar quality to take in. The leaving out Lawson after the Raith game, the replacing Vigurs before offering him a contract, the hanging out Munro to dry after the Motherwell game, even Brittain wanted to leave and lastly freeing Kettlewell and the player reading about it in the paper. All examples of poor man management. If he could mis manager players that you would think would be relatively straight forward to manage, I can only imagine how bad it got for players who didn't perform as well as expected. He achieved incredible success with us, but I think it is more to do with the success of the players like Brittain, Vigurs, Lawson, Munro, Kettlewell, Gardyne and Boyd. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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