Who will be the next permanent manager of the Conservatives?

[Ludo*1]

I genuinely can't believe they've nominated the absolute thickest of the bunch for a run off. And that's some achievement.

[renton]

I can only concur that Truss is terminally stupid. How in the name of f**k did she manage to sell herself as competent? And what does that say about the broader elected party.

Like May before her, she'll try and play herself up as the living vessel for the spirit of their beloved "mummy" Thatcher.

[welshbairn]

Just now, Snafu said:

This isn't actually a bad thing if you are looking at the long game here.

If we live long enough..

 

[williemillersmoustache]

Obviously Cummings is a b*****d and a hazard to humanity but I do love the phrase "reassuringly mad behind the eyes." It's perfect 

 

 

Edited July 20, 2022 by williemillersmoustache

[Granny Danger]

If six months ago anyone on here had suggested Truss could be the next PM they would have been laughed at.  And rightly so.

I really hope she wins.

[Granny Danger]

5 minutes ago, Ludo*1 said:

I genuinely can't believe they've nominated the absolute thickest of the bunch for a run off. And that's some achievement.

It’s Mark McGhee all over again..

[AndyM]

Just now, Granny Danger said:

If six months ago anyone on here had suggested Truss could be the next PM they would have been laughed at.  And rightly so.

I really hope she wins.

She will win. Can you honestly imagine the coffin dodging Tory Membership voting for a brown bloke? Even an elitist uber rich fud like Sunak?

But Truss is absolutely batshit. She'll do something utterly insane.

[Dan Steele]

Gwendolyn Truss for PM. Crackin'! 

 

 

[Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo]

[Granny Danger]

4 minutes ago, AndyM said:

She will win. Can you honestly imagine the coffin dodging Tory Membership voting for a brown bloke? Even an elitist uber rich fud like Sunak?

But Truss is absolutely batshit. She'll do something utterly insane.

I hope so.

[AndyM]

4 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

I hope so.

Unfortunately her sort of insane could end up getting people killed.

[Bully Wee Villa]

8 minutes ago, AndyM said:

Unfortunately her sort of insane could end up getting people killed.

Quite. GD using the same stupid reasoning that saw him vote for Brexit, let's hope the worst possible thing happens because it will, somehow, lead to everything being okay. Utter Underpants Gnomes logic.

If the Tories veer further to the right, as we have seen, the political centre, the media and, to an extent, the Labour Party move with them and everybody suffers.

Sunak may be a twat and a crook but would be a thousand times better than that crank Truss. If she gets in poor people, trade unions, minorities, refugees and any movement which seeks to reduce inequality will suffer.

Wanting her to win out of some fanciful dream that it will somehow lead to Scottish independence or just for the "LOLs" is privileged nonsense.

Edited July 20, 2022 by Bully Wee Villa

[Boo Khaki]

2 minutes ago, AndyM said:

Unfortunately her sort of insane could end up getting people killed.

Well the previous incumbents have been busy finishing off the poor and infirm since 2010, and that doesn't appear to be any cause for concern for most of the electorate, so you can only conclude that another square go with some developing nation over some god forsaken island in the middle of nowhere that hosts more livestock than pretendy Brits would likely be a net vote winner, even if a few of 'are brave boys' come back sloshing around in the bottom of a box.

[ICTJohnboy]

4 minutes ago, AndyM said:

Unfortunately her sort of insane could end up getting people killed.

 

She is on record as saying she will stand up to Putin and become the next leader of the free world.

She could be even more delusioned than BoJo.

[Boo Khaki]

2 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said:

 

She is on record as saying she will stand up to Putin and become the next leader of the free world.

She could be even more delusioned than BoJo.

It would be good if she meant that in a physical, literal sense, so we could plonk a lid and some body armour on her and dump her in a trench in SE Ukraine somewhere.

[Granny Danger]

3 minutes ago, Bully Wee Villa said:

Quite. GD using the same stupid reasoning that saw him for Brexit, let's hope the worst possible thing happens because it will, somehow, lead to everything being okay. Utter Underpants Gnomes logic.

If the Tories veer further to the right, as we have seen, the political centre, the media and, to an extent, the Labour Party move with them and everybody suffers.

Sunak may be a twat and a crook but would be a thousand times better than that crank Truss. If she gets in poor people, trade unions, minorities, refugees and any movement which seeks to reduce inequality will suffer.

Wanting her to win out of some fanciful dream that it will somehow lead to Scottish independence or just for the "LOLs" is privileged nonsense.

Nonsense.  Unsurprising nonsense.

The Labour Party is going to stay very much where it is. The Independence movement will certainly benefit from Mad Lizzie at the wheel.

Anyone who is not sold on how essential Independence is for Scotland must have been sleepwalking these last few years.  Remaining part of this wholly disfunctional union is simply not an option.

The only privilege is the privilege of setting you straight.

[AndyM]

6 minutes ago, Bully Wee Villa said:

Quite. GD using the same stupid reasoning that saw him vote for Brexit, let's hope the worst possible thing happens because it will, somehow, lead to everything being okay. Utter Underpants Gnomes logic.

If the Tories veer further to the right, as we have seen, the political centre, the media and, to an extent, the Labour Party move with them and everybody suffers.

Sunak may be a twat and a crook but would be a thousand times better than that crank Truss. If she gets in poor people, trade unions, minorities, refugees and any movement which seeks to reduce inequality will suffer.

Wanting her to win out of some fanciful dream that it will somehow lead to Scottish independence or just for the "LOLs" is privileged nonsense.

Sunak at least is intelligent even if his politics are awful and he's a crook and a chancer.  Truss couldn't think her way out of a paper bag.

[jamamafegan]

A Tory's a tory at the end of the day - the longer that party runs the country the worse life will be for the majority of people in this country, regardless of who's in charge. If Truss gets in it will be yet another disaster for the UK but also a disaster for the Conservatives who are in need of some sort of stability after the Johnson era. Sunak would bring that stability but Truss wouldn't because she's an absolute balloon. 

[Bully Wee Villa]

6 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

Nonsense.  Unsurprising nonsense.

The Labour Party is going to stay very much where it is. The Independence movement will certainly benefit from Mad Lizzie at the wheel.

Anyone who is not sold on how essential Independence is for Scotland must have been sleepwalking these last few years.  Remaining part of this wholly disfunctional union is simply not an option.

The only privilege is the privilege of setting you straight.

It doesn't matter if 90% of people in Scotland are in favour of independence if there is no legally recognised second vote. Truss has already ruled it out. The Attorney General for Scotland that decides whether Sturgeon (or any other First Minister) can unilaterally declare one will be appointed by her. Which way do you think they're likely to go?

The only way Scotland gets a second referendum is with a Labour Government lacking a majority which needs SNP support. No Tory PM/Attorney General will sign off on a second referendum in this era of Brexity flag-shagging that you voted for.

Lots of poor people will suffer under Truss, finding said suffering cause for celebration is revolting behaviour.

Privileged, uncaring, nonsense.

Edited July 20, 2022 by Bully Wee Villa

[O'Kelly Isley III]

6 minutes ago, Bully Wee Villa said:

Quite. GD using the same stupid reasoning that saw him for Brexit, let's hope the worst possible thing happens because it will, somehow, lead to everything being okay. Utter Underpants Gnomes logic.

If the Tories veer further to the right, as we have seen, the political centre, the media and, to an extent, the Labour Party move with them and everybody suffers.

Sunak may be a twat and a crook but would be a thousand times better than that crank Truss. If she gets in poor people, trade unions, minorities, refugees and any movement which seeks to reduce inequality will suffer.

Wanting her to win out of some fanciful dream that it will somehow lead to Scottish independence or just for the "LOLs" is privileged nonsense.

The problem with this is that you can no more reason with the Tory Party of 2022 than you can with a rabid dog.  They need to be metaphorically put down at the ballot box and the most expedient way of that happening is for a Tory-owned recession piloted by an economic illiterate populist like Truss.

There are simply no shades of good or better here.