Granny Danger Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 23 hours ago, Sarto Mutiny said: I fear that Dundee United fans have already seen the best bit of this season FÚCK RIGHT OFF 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewh Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Some Dundee United fans complaining about their manager already and saying that they won’t finish third if they can’t beat Hearts and shouldn’t be losing to a team like Livingston. What an entitled attitude by some after one good season out of many. Almost as bad as some of our fans. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 They should be beating Livingston at home, they've got a far bigger budget and finished above them last season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Quite disappointed that Hibs signed Boyle tbh. Massive reduction in banter possibilities if he stays fit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stylish Kid Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Hmm. I think my optimistic predictions of sheep and cabbage being roasted may be off the mark slightly. May well be the mighty JT's who are crying at the end of this.... Or an alternative TL is an absolute meltdown from one of the ugly sisters, but I can't see it happening. If anything I can see a record season in the offing for one or both of them 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarapoa Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 On 06/08/2022 at 09:30, craigkillie said: It's always worth remembering that in addition to finishing bottom on multiple occasions without being relegated, Aberdeen are the only Premiership club who didn't actually earn their place in the top flight. How many times is multiple? I thought it was just the twice - with one of them when half the men in the country were in a trench somewhere near Ypres...................and the other during the Skovdahl experiment when the worst that was happening was a three-way play-off due to league expansion. Any advance on that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 21 minutes ago, tarapoa said: How many times is multiple? I thought it was just the twice - with one of them when half the men in the country were in a trench somewhere near Ypres...................and the other during the Skovdahl experiment when the worst that was happening was a three-way play-off due to league expansion. Any advance on that? Multiple is more than one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIVIFOREVER Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 On 08/08/2022 at 15:05, craigkillie said: They should be beating Livingston at home, they've got a far bigger budget and finished above them last season. Should they aye, didn't manage to beat us last season either, 2 defeats and a draw, one of those defeats was again at Tannadice. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, LIVIFOREVER said: Should they aye, didn't manage to beat us last season either, 2 defeats and a draw, one of those defeats was again at Tannadice. Yes, they should. They have a far bigger budget and finished above you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 10 minutes ago, LIVIFOREVER said: Should they aye, didn't manage to beat us last season either, 2 defeats and a draw, one of those defeats was again at Tannadice. So sensitive 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIVIFOREVER Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 Just now, craigkillie said: Yes, they should. They have a far bigger budget and finished above you. They finished above us and still failed to beat us all last season, lost twice to us the season before too, got beat in the promotion play offs and finished below us in the Championship, finished below us two seasons ago in the Premiership when we had our 2nd top 6 finish. But yeah, them having a bigger budget has made a huge difference playing us. If Budgets decided who Livi could beat we wouldn't even be in the top flight, fortunately it hasn't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, LIVIFOREVER said: They finished above us and still failed to beat us all last season, lost twice to us the season before too, got beat in the promotion play offs and finished below us in the Championship, finished below us two seasons ago in the Premiership when we had our 2nd top 6 finish. But yeah, them having a bigger budget has made a huge difference playing us. If Budgets decided who Livi could beat we wouldn't even be in the top flight, fortunately it hasn't. Livingston are overachieving by being in that position and United are underachieving by losing to you. That's a simple statement of fact, not an attack on anyone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarapoa Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 31 minutes ago, craigkillie said: Multiple is more than one. A couple of times then? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIVIFOREVER Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 1 minute ago, craigkillie said: Livingston are overachieving by being in that position and United are underachieving by losing to you. That's a simple statement of fact, not an attack on anyone. We've been "overachieving" for 5, going on 6 seasons though, comes a point when what a team has done on the pitch gets them enough credit, respect, that opposition fans don't think just because they have a bigger budget they "should" be beating you, certainly not ones outside the erse cheeks. That's just plain arrogance. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarapoa Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, LIVIFOREVER said: We've been "overachieving" for 5, going on 6 seasons though, comes a point when what a team has done on the pitch gets them enough credit, respect, that opposition fans don't think just because they have a bigger budget they "should" be beating you, certainly not ones outside the erse cheeks. That's just plain arrogance. Agree - Livingston have done very well, and were probably the worst possible opponent for Yinitit coming off the high of Thursday. There is always an extra pressure on the bigger city clubs (c) Roy McGregor. As has been proved in recent times, just being in a high position in the league is often not enough to appease all of their support. The organised, two banks of four brigade that have carte blanche to play counter-attacking football home and away can always benefit from that - as the quality between a £2.5k a week player and a £1k a week player is not as stark as it is between the guys earning £8-25K a week at the weegie duo and the rest. Still you need a good manager and the right players to make it work, and Livingston have excelled in that respect. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YassinMoutaouakil Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 21 minutes ago, LIVIFOREVER said: If Budgets decided who Livi could beat we wouldn't even be in the top flight Fingers crossed, like. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentGuerin Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 16 minutes ago, LIVIFOREVER said: We've been "overachieving" for 5, going on 6 seasons though, comes a point when what a team has done on the pitch gets them enough credit, respect, that opposition fans don't think just because they have a bigger budget they "should" be beating you, certainly not ones outside the erse cheeks. That's just plain arrogance. Who the f**k cares? Are you happy with your team or not? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 22 minutes ago, LIVIFOREVER said: We've been "overachieving" for 5, going on 6 seasons though, comes a point when what a team has done on the pitch gets them enough credit, respect, that opposition fans don't think just because they have a bigger budget they "should" be beating you, certainly not ones outside the erse cheeks. That's just plain arrogance. Livingston get loads of credit and respect. They’ve done amazing, as did Hamilton before them. You shouldn’t be offended that Dundee United aspire to be good enough to beat you at home. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 On 08/08/2022 at 15:05, craigkillie said: They should be beating Livingston at home, they've got a far bigger budget and finished above them last season. No one would watch football if that happened every time. You're coming across as a right grump. So this weekend the winners of the matches in the Premiership will be Aberdeen, Hibs, Rangers, St Mirren, Celtic and Hearts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIVIFOREVER Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 23 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: Livingston get loads of credit and respect. They’ve done amazing, as did Hamilton before them. You shouldn’t be offended that Dundee United aspire to be good enough to beat you at home. I'm not offended in the least, as craigkillie says their budget spend entitles them as a club to aspire, even expect, to be better than the likes of Livi, on a lower budget, but we all know that's not always how it works, and for fans to expect it to is either arrogance, or naivety. Also agree with what tarapoa said, the fair to middling clubs haven't got that massive a budget that a couple of grand a week player is that much better, or even as good as some of the lower budget team's players. For whatever reason a player has found themselves signing on at Livi for peanuts, we've signed some gems that are better than some higher paid players in this league. Nouble is the latest, some of Martindale's signings have been incredible for us. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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