A list of reasons why you will NEVER vote Labour until Scotland is Independent (or longer).

[Brother Blades]

1 minute ago, Melanius Mullarkay said:

I see enough donkeys in Red on a weekly basis.

Beret

[Detournement]

36 minutes ago, KingRocketman II said:

 ^^^ Laser sharp sweeping analysis once more from Labour in response  to their latest tanking in Scotland. 

Don't now about the others but I vote Greens. 

The Greens are hopeless as well. 

I voted Labour in 2017 and 2019, I don't see myself voting for them again. I just think SNP voters should be thinking more about why they vote for the SNP than why they won't vote for Labour.

[paranoid android]

33 minutes ago, Bob in Denny said:

The fuckers standing alongside the Tories...end of

They'll claim to be a centrist party, but they're actually right wing - f**k them.

Any time I get excited about the Tories losing power, I remember Labour are the only real opposition in the UK - fucking hopeless. 

[git-intae-thum]

3 minutes ago, Detournement said:

The Greens are hopeless as well. 

I voted Labour in 2017 and 2019, I don't see myself voting for them again. I just think SNP voters should be thinking more about why they vote for the SNP than why they won't vote for Labour.

Quite simple .......independence.

Our political and economic future is stalled until this is achieved.

The SNP are currently the only plausible route to achieving that end.

 

[git-intae-thum]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCrone_report

for helping to deny past, current and future generations of the benefits of our oil wealth.

 

[Brother Blades]

7 minutes ago, git-intae-thum said:

Quite simple .......independence.

Our political and economic future is stalled until this is achieved.

The SNP are currently the only plausible route to achieving that end.

 

My sentiments exactly. 

[Detournement]

26 minutes ago, git-intae-thum said:

Quite simple .......independence.

Our political and economic future is stalled until this is achieved.

The SNP are currently the only plausible route to achieving that end.

 

You'll be looking forward to Indyref2 in 11 months time then?

[git-intae-thum]

Unlikely......but then demand for independence is not something that is going away and eventually something will have to give.

 

[highlandcowden]

1.taking the people of scotland and their votes for granted for long enough

2.better together

3.tories lite

[Bad Wolf]

Pandering to sectarian bigots, but good sectarian bigots. Which makes it alright, apparently.

[sophia]

I find it a very easy question to answer and it is simply that the BLP can never provide the permanent reset that I think any self respecting country should expect.

An occasional Labour prime minister might very well be a good thing (not you Gordon Brown, you are way too socially maladroit) but they can never save the Scottish electorate from the recurring will of another country.

Since 1945 there have been only 5 BLP prime ministers against 12 Tolies or ~30 out of those 77 years.

It makes perfect nonsense, vote BLP and get the Tolies most of the time.

[Antlion]

7 minutes ago, sophia said:

I find it a very easy question to answer and it is simply that the BLP can never provide the permanent reset that I think any self respecting country should expect.

An occasional Labour prime minister might very well be a good thing (not you Gordon Brown, you are way too socially maladroit) but they can never save the Scottish electorate from the recurring will of another country.

Since 1945 there have been only 5 BLP prime ministers against 12 Tolies or ~30 out of those 77 years.

It makes perfect nonsense, vote BLP and get the Tolies most of the time.

Labour, basically, have no desire to ever alter the system. If you think the system is the problem (or a big part of it), you simply can’t vote for them.

The Labour position is that the system (and by this we can include the constitution) is fine and shouldn’t be questioned; they just think it needs better people (and of course it’s debatable whether they have better people, who might well make life under the system better for some) in its key positions, defending it, and continuing it.

The Labour Party are basically a small-c conservative party.

[Lurkst]

[Richey Edwards]

I was young and foolish and used to vote Labour. That was before they decided to campaign alongside the Tories against my country's independence.

Ironically, independence would vastly improve a Labour party's (a real socialist Labour Party, mind. Not the Red Tory clowns who call themselves Labour) chance of winning power in Scotland again.

[Dan Steele]

Working with the Tories in the Better Together campaign.

The most abject, pathetic, and disgraceful tantrum when swathes of working class urban areas voted SNP as a viable way forward to a socially just country as if it was Labour's given right to govern. By extension, the hatred shown to the SNP is also shown to the Scottish people.

The refusal of Scottish Labour to get onside with a democratically elected government acting in the best interests of the country.

Big Labour's pandering to base right-wing supporters in the desire for power. 

Alex Rowley.

 

[tamthebam]

Years of corruption in local councils where Labour were largely unchallenged. It's not often I give the Lib Dems credit but getting PR for local government elections as part of a coalition deal was the first crack in Labour's domination

I've also participated in strikes against a Labour Government's attempts to attack Civil Service pay and benefits because Gordon Brown fucked up running the economy. The only administration that gave me a vaguely decent pay deal was the SNP Scottish Government although that's gone out the window now 

Pissing millions up the wall that could have been put to better use  to built a new Parliament building for purely ideological reasons when there was a perfectly good one waiting to be used.

Post independence it is likely, although not a given, that a Labour type party would be in power. I would hope there might be a list system in elections. While not quite as bad as the Tories Scottish Labour has a high count of c**ts that I could never vote for 

 

[TONTROOPER]

The reasons are legion....they are ALL:_

RED TORY ...BLUE TORY....YELLOW TORY

[invergowrie arab]

Even the good ones are weirdo middle class tankies 

[btb]

Never is a long time but I will not vote for the Starmer iteration of the Labour party.

[KingRocketman II]

On 04/11/2022 at 07:40, KingRocketman II said:

1. Better Together

2. Brexit

3. choice of any populist Tory policy they are happy to adopt to win back the "red wall"

 

Edited November 6, 2022 by KingRocketman II