coprolite Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Remember when the centrist social democrat Jeremy Corbyn was widely described as “far left” by every single news outlet in the country? The UK has drifted incredibly to the right over my lifetime. It’s like boiling a frog though, so incremental. Things like trying to repeal the HRA and leave the HCHR, sending refugees to Africa and outlawing most protests would have been BNP policy when I were a lad. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 9 minutes ago, coprolite said: Remember when the centrist social democrat Jeremy Corbyn was widely described as “far left” by every single news outlet in the country? The UK has drifted incredibly to the right over my lifetime. It’s like boiling a frog though, so incremental. Things like trying to repeal the HRA and leave the HCHR, sending refugees to Africa and outlawing most protests would have been BNP policy when I were a lad. Thank goodness that we have a Labour Party that when they come to power will reverse this trend and… Oh, wait… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Thank goodness that we have a Labour Party that when they come to power will reverse this trend and… Oh, wait… Labour are now in my book on the same part of the spectrum as the Democrats in the states, they’re centre right. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 19 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Labour are now in my book on the same part of the spectrum as the Democrats in the states, they’re centre right. Yeah, comparisons have been made in the past to the states and are probably no more relevant than now. However since a previous occasion the Labour Party did have Corbyn as leader! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 13 hours ago, coprolite said: Remember when the centrist social democrat Jeremy Corbyn was widely described as “far left” by every single news outlet in the country? The UK has drifted incredibly to the right over my lifetime. It’s like boiling a frog though, so incremental. Things like trying to repeal the HRA and leave the HCHR, sending refugees to Africa and outlawing most protests would have been BNP policy when I were a lad. Ted Heath would be seen as a leftie these days and Macmillan practically a Communist. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted December 10, 2022 Author Share Posted December 10, 2022 A German celebrity chef is among those arrested. His daughter is David Alana’s partner. https://news.sky.com/story/celebrity-chef-frank-heppner-is-suspect-in-german-far-right-coup-plot-according-to-reports-12765272 Which British celebrity chef do you think is most likely to lead an attempted coup? Anthony Worrall Thompson for me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, ICTChris said: A German celebrity chef is among those arrested. His daughter is David Alana’s partner. https://news.sky.com/story/celebrity-chef-frank-heppner-is-suspect-in-german-far-right-coup-plot-according-to-reports-12765272 Which British celebrity chef do you think is most likely to lead an attempted coup? Anthony Worrall Thompson for me. Brian Turner 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Nick Nairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 26 minutes ago, ICTChris said: A German celebrity chef is among those arrested. His daughter is David Alana’s partner. https://news.sky.com/story/celebrity-chef-frank-heppner-is-suspect-in-german-far-right-coup-plot-according-to-reports-12765272 Which British celebrity chef do you think is most likely to lead an attempted coup? Anthony Worrall Thompson for me. Rick Stein. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Heston Blumenthal 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 hour ago, ICTChris said: A German celebrity chef is among those arrested. His daughter is David Alana’s partner. https://news.sky.com/story/celebrity-chef-frank-heppner-is-suspect-in-german-far-right-coup-plot-according-to-reports-12765272 Which British celebrity chef do you think is most likely to lead an attempted coup? Anthony Worrall Thompson for me. Fanny Craddock. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telefunken U47 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 This fella. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 On 08/12/2022 at 23:20, tamthebam said: Pickelhaubes. Replaced by the classic "Stahlhelm" or "coal scuttle helmet" in 1916 the pickelhaube was introduced to the Prussian army by Frederick William IV in the 1830s and was based on a Russian design. The spike was one way of deflecting sword blows to the head from cavalry I would've enjoyed seeing that training. "Right lads, I know you're worried about getting gutted/slashed/decapitated by all the swords you'll be up against, so we're giving you a hat to deflect them with. If you see a sword I want you going in head first." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 3 hours ago, ICTChris said: A German celebrity chef is among those arrested. His daughter is David Alana’s partner. https://news.sky.com/story/celebrity-chef-frank-heppner-is-suspect-in-german-far-right-coup-plot-according-to-reports-12765272 Which British celebrity chef do you think is most likely to lead an attempted coup? Anthony Worrall Thompson for me. What's the difference between Anthony Worrall Thompson and a cross country run? One is a pant in the country.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 (edited) On 09/12/2022 at 11:12, coprolite said: Remember when the centrist social democrat Jeremy Corbyn was widely described as “far left” by every single news outlet in the country? The UK has drifted incredibly to the right over my lifetime. It’s like boiling a frog though, so incremental. Things like trying to repeal the HRA and leave the HCHR, sending refugees to Africa and outlawing most protests would have been BNP policy when I were a lad. I don't think the UK state has changed at all in my lifetime which covers Thatcher onwards The difference now is that the era of easy growth is over so the state has to show it's teeth in terms of cracking down on dissent from the left and whipping up the kind of hatred that gives the ruling class a social base to appeal to. It's exactly the same in the EU though and the only (non Warsaw pact) countries that probably genuinely have moved to the right are the 4 northern former social democracies. You can be in parts of the USA and think you are in paradise on Earth then go 100 miles and see horrific poverty and extremely racist policing. We live under a flexible fascism. Edited December 10, 2022 by Detournement 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Detournement said: I don't think the UK state has changed at all in my lifetime which covers Thatcher onwards The difference now is that the era of easy growth is over so the state has to show it's teeth in terms of cracking down on dissent from the left and whipping up the kind of hatred that gives the ruling class a social base to appeal to. It's exactly the same in the EU though and the only (non Warsaw pact) countries that probably genuinely have moved to the right are the 4 northern former social democracies. You can be in parts of the USA and think you are in paradise on Earth then go 100 miles and see horrific poverty and extremely racist policing. We live under a flexible fascism. When i was born, shortly before Thatcher came in, the UK state owned a couple of telecoms companies, car companies, oil companies, a massive steel producer, the railways, the coal mines, the water companies, the gas and the electricity. University education was free. You could argue that we've become more socially liberal, but we've gone from being relatively socialist to something more like pre revolutionary France, except with CEO s intead of aristocrats. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 @coprolite That's true but none of that was due to the 70s/80s state it was down to the demands of workers post WW2. Just the same way that the NHS has heehaw to do with Cameron/May/Johnson/Sunak. There is a straight line from Thatcher to where we are today. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 On 10/12/2022 at 09:30, ICTChris said: A German celebrity chef is among those arrested. His daughter is David Alana’s partner. https://news.sky.com/story/celebrity-chef-frank-heppner-is-suspect-in-german-far-right-coup-plot-according-to-reports-12765272 Which British celebrity chef do you think is most likely to lead an attempted coup? Anthony Worrall Thompson for me. Let's be 'avin you , where are you......only 1 candidate in this category, DELIA. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 22 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: Let's be 'avin you , where are you......only 1 candidate in this category, DELIA. German coup? Scratch the surface and you’ll get an Austrian connection… His daughter, Shalimar Heppner, 28, has a son with Real Madrid's Alaba, who also captains the Austrian national team. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 On 10/12/2022 at 09:30, ICTChris said: A German celebrity chef is among those arrested. His daughter is David Alana’s partner. https://news.sky.com/story/celebrity-chef-frank-heppner-is-suspect-in-german-far-right-coup-plot-according-to-reports-12765272 Which British celebrity chef do you think is most likely to lead an attempted coup? Anthony Worrall Thompson for me. Old "fingers" Thomson's career never came back after he was caught nicking wine from Tesco, really. So yes, I'd agree. time on his hands, rage against The Man for arresting him, beard. All the signs are there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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