Silvio Tattiescone Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 (edited) Bobby Madden's taken at least 20 years off me. Edited February 14, 2023 by Newbornbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampden Diehard Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 2 hours ago, throbber said: The liver is the only organ that can self heal I heard somewhere that lungs could shake off years of smoking and recover. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampden Diehard Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 I'm permanently stressed out ma box and can't sleep. Every night is the same. That'll kill me early; absolute certainty. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 19 minutes ago, Hampden Diehard said: I heard somewhere that lungs could shake off years of smoking and recover. Lungs can't recover, but they can stay at whatever level of shiteness they are at currently without deteriorating. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 21 minutes ago, Hampden Diehard said: I heard somewhere that lungs could shake off years of smoking and recover. I read that book as well. You could get it in exchange for 1000 Regal tokens 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Steele Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 Hartlepool for a long weekend. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buchan30 Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 Support raith/scotland married a methil woman. have teenage children. maybe more for depression thread, but i have only recently turned 40 and the last few weeks have absolutely convinced me that i will have a heart attack by the time i am 50. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throbber Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 27 minutes ago, Hampden Diehard said: I heard somewhere that lungs could shake off years of smoking and recover. They can’t self heal like the liver can, you can donate 1/2 of your liver to someone and then it will grow to a full liver in both of you. Lungs can’t self heal and it’s why lung cancer is so grim. Someone can give up smoking at 40 after years of abuse and catch lung cancer down the line but a major pish pot who quits drinking at 40 will not suffer liver failure after years of sobriety unless something else badly effects the liver. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugster Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 36 minutes ago, Newbornbairn said: Bobby Madden's taken at least 20 years off me. Sandy Roy and Hugh Dallas for me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 Rabid cocaine abuse. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Hampden Diehard said: I heard somewhere that lungs could shake off years of smoking and recover. Forget lungs, your lugs are fucked. Edited February 14, 2023 by Melanius Mullarkay 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richey Edwards Posted February 14, 2023 Author Share Posted February 14, 2023 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Hampden Diehard said: I heard somewhere that lungs could shake off years of smoking and recover. If you stop early enough, a lot of the physical effects of smoking i.e. getting out of breath easily, coughing etc can be improved, but if someone was to examine your lungs they would be able to tell that you have been a smoker. The lungs do have the ability to clean themselves, but they do not "regenerate" to pre-smoking state. If you were to be diagnosed with something like COPD through smoking, that would not go away if you were to stop smoking. However, it would not get any worse if you stopped smoking. In short, smoking is a fucking stupid thing to do and will f**k your lungs right up. Don't do it. Edited February 14, 2023 by Richey Edwards 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, throbber said: They can’t self heal like the liver can, you can donate 1/2 of your liver to someone and then it will grow to a full liver in both of you. Lungs can’t self heal and it’s why lung cancer is so grim. Someone can give up smoking at 40 after years of abuse and catch lung cancer down the line but a major pish pot who quits drinking at 40 will not suffer liver failure after years of sobriety unless something else badly effects the liver. Does it not depend on the damage? Fairly sure that lungs can more or less clean out tarry stuff, but if you’ve had emphysema or something they won’t grow back. Also if your liver starts that turning into fat thing (can never remember if it’s cirrhosis or sclerosis) that’s irreversible isn’t it? I’m most concerned about damaging my mind really. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richey Edwards Posted February 14, 2023 Author Share Posted February 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, coprolite said: Does it not depend on the damage? Fairly sure that lungs can more or less clean out tarry stuff, but if you’ve had emphysema or something they won’t grow back. Also if your liver starts that turning into fat thing (can never remember if it’s cirrhosis or sclerosis) that’s irreversible isn’t it? I’m most concerned about damaging my mind really. Cirrhosis is scarring of the liver which causes it to lose it's function. Steatosis is the fatty liver thing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 Plus side: don't smoke, moderate drinker, mother's side of the family fairly long lived, occasional exercise Negative side: obesity, mercury fillings, sedentary life style, single man, probably got BSE in the 1980s from dodgy pies at the football 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richey Edwards Posted February 14, 2023 Author Share Posted February 14, 2023 1 minute ago, tamthebam said: Plus side: don't smoke, moderate drinker, mother's side of the family fairly long lived, occasional exercise Negative side: obesity, mercury fillings, sedentary life style, single man, probably got BSE in the 1980s from dodgy pies at the football I used to think it caused cows to punch people in the head. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, Richey Edwards said: Cirrhosis is scarring of the liver which causes it to lose it's function. Steatosis is the fatty liver thing. No wonder my patients keep complaining 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 10 minutes ago, coprolite said: Does it not depend on the damage? Fairly sure that lungs can more or less clean out tarry stuff, but if you’ve had emphysema or something they won’t grow back. Also if your liver starts that turning into fat thing (can never remember if it’s cirrhosis or sclerosis) that’s irreversible isn’t it? I’m most concerned about damaging my mind really. As a Dons' fan it's probably too late for that 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 My dad was in hospital a few years ago (heart problems due to many decades of smoking) and the guy in the bed next to him had end stage liver disease - he genuinely looked horrifying, wasting away, yellow skin. Like a living corpse. Louis Theroux did a documentary about alcoholics and one of them was going into hospital to get fluid drained from his abdomen, utter grim looking. Of course, you can drink moderately and be fine, there are even some indications that very moderate drinkers are healthier than abstainers. No such thing as moderate smoking though - unless you smoke one a month or something like that but even then that's harmful. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buchan30 Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, tamthebam said: probably got BSE in the 1980s from dodgy pies at the football I used to have mad cow disease, but i’m alright noooooooooooo.* *will grab my coat on the way out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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