TxRover Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, tamthebam said: Plus side: don't smoke, moderate drinker, mother's side of the family fairly long lived, occasional exercise Negative side: obesity, mercury fillings, sedentary life style, single man, probably got BSE in the 1980s from dodgy pies at the football Redundant, FIFY 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philpy Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 @Andy Dufresne... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richey Edwards Posted February 14, 2023 Author Share Posted February 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, ICTChris said: My dad was in hospital a few years ago (heart problems due to many decades of smoking) and the guy in the bed next to him had end stage liver disease - he genuinely looked horrifying, wasting away, yellow skin. Like a living corpse. Louis Theroux did a documentary about alcoholics and one of them was going into hospital to get fluid drained from his abdomen, utter grim looking. Of course, you can drink moderately and be fine, there are even some indications that very moderate drinkers are healthier than abstainers. No such thing as moderate smoking though - unless you smoke one a month or something like that but even then that's harmful. According to research, the difference in risk of heart disease, cancer and stroke between light smoking and heavy smoking is not massive. You're better off just not doing it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 19 minutes ago, buchan30 said: I used to have mad cow disease, but i’m alright noooooooooooo.* *will grab my coat hide on the way out. ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alta-pete Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 10 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said: ? Replace with ‘MOOOOO!!’ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 12 minutes ago, alta-pete said: Replace with ‘MOOOOO!!’ Yes, I understood that! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throbber Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 52 minutes ago, coprolite said: Does it not depend on the damage? Fairly sure that lungs can more or less clean out tarry stuff, but if you’ve had emphysema or something they won’t grow back. Also if your liver starts that turning into fat thing (can never remember if it’s cirrhosis or sclerosis) that’s irreversible isn’t it? I’m most concerned about damaging my mind really. The lungs can’t clean themselves out and preserve themselves the way the liver can though. I suppose the liver is there as the main digestive organ and has to be resilient to whatever gets thrown at it when the lungs are primarily there just to enable the human to breathe and haven’t evolved in such a way that they need to repair themselves until people started loading themselves up with toxins for pleasure. The fatty liver and other conditions you have mentioned don’t mean that the liver will be self sustainable if you leave it alone of course and there are irreversible diseases that can attack any organ. It was a fatty liver that killed George Michael. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venti Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 Playing loads of video games. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetableman Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 In order of likelyhood , Riding a pushbike on a road full of angry motorists, (they are getting angrier by the day ), Riding my motorbike , Telling the wife she is wrong , Watching Alloa , Carbon dust , Blowing myself and others up at a tory party conference (often thought about it ) joining the russian army . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Dufresne Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 4 hours ago, philpy said: @Andy Dufresne... He ruined a great team 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venti Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Contract on your life. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-shropshire-64640596 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotgun Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 10 hours ago, throbber said: The liver is the only organ that can self heal so drinking when you’re relatively young is probably not going to take the years off your life if you give it a break in later life. I bet your liver will be as healthy as a 30 something your age who has never drunk before Yaaaayyyy!!! 10 hours ago, throbber said: if you have abstained for a couple years. Oh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throbber Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 6 hours ago, Shotgun said: Yaaaayyyy!!! Oh. I must add that I am not a doctor. Even if you are a binge drinker who hammers it every weekend but stops throughout the week you aren’t at high risk of long term illness as you’re giving the liver the time to recover and do it’s other function. The damage comes from hammering it daily and overworking it. Pretty much like every piece of equipment I suppose. I had a good skinful last night, not sure what I was thinking tbh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oystercatcher Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 breathing anything into your lungs other than oxygen must surely be detrimental. When will we see those that vape with incurable lung conditions? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 47 minutes ago, throbber said: I must add that I am not a doctor. Even if you are a binge drinker who hammers it every weekend but stops throughout the week you aren’t at high risk of long term illness as you’re giving the liver the time to recover and do it’s other function. The damage comes from hammering it daily and overworking it. Pretty much like every piece of equipment I suppose. I had a good skinful last night, not sure what I was thinking tbh. Pretty sure that's not quite the whole story. Even if the liver can cope, there's cancers of the whole digestive tract, kidney damage, brain damage, cardiovascular diseases and the increased probability of burning your house down while making a toastie. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 When I was a student, I remember a lecturer telling us about the statistical link between smoking and lung cancer. The cells in the body are brilliant and copying the DNA for cell division with accuracy. The transcription process spots a mutation and is able to fix it. Put it this way, the chances of a mutation that causes cancer occurring are very remote. Imagine a room with 1000 safes in it, each with their own unique, random combination code. Something like a UV ray comes along to try to create cancer, it must unlock all 1000 random combinations through guesswork. And if it fails, all the combinations are reset to new, random combinations. Said like this, it is hard to imagine how cancer occurs at all. But there are two things to consider. First, some people have a genetic propensity for cancer (say, their room has 300 safes instead of 1000). Secondly, every single cigarette you smoke generates around 30 million attempts at unlocking the safes. Over a lifetime of smoking, a heavy smoker will generate billions or trillions of attempts. Eventually one will get through. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 31 minutes ago, Oystercatcher said: breathing anything into your lungs other than oxygen must surely be detrimental. When will we see those that vape with incurable lung conditions? People who use the sea for leisure activities need to take care because of the high levels of dihydrogen monoxide. Inhaling that can easily be fatal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throbber Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 27 minutes ago, coprolite said: Pretty sure that's not quite the whole story. Even if the liver can cope, there's cancers of the whole digestive tract, kidney damage, brain damage, cardiovascular diseases and the increased probability of burning your house down while making a toastie. I said high risk, it’s not the same as regular smokers who are almost certainly killing themselves. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oystercatcher Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 16 minutes ago, coprolite said: People who use the sea for leisure activities need to take care because of the high levels of dihydrogen monoxide. Inhaling that can easily be fatal. Is this a similar thing to those that vape? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, Oystercatcher said: Is this a similar thing to those that vape? Bad news, my friend. Spoiler You've been Whooshed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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