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59 minutes ago, GHF-23 said:

Yeah this had me wondering as well, the SNP were understood very recently as the pro-Independence centrist party. I guess the coalition with a more progressive liberal party has effected that but I still wonder what people mean when they want the SNP to be more centrist. They still very much are!

They accept the economic orthodoxy of austerity as default, they are fairly anti-democratic at both a local and national level, internally and externally. They accept that they have no power to meaningfully overhaul social or economic iniquities within the polity and instead fiddle at the margins based on what some well-meaning but short-sighted academics, pressure groups or party interests think is a good idea and which they think will be popular, wasting quite a lot of money in the process.

The things which differentiate them from say the New Labour government is there is no overflow from growth which can allow for a better standard of public services, and to their credit an unwillingness to phone up the Sunday Times whenever the polls are looking bad and say they want to tag asylum seekers or mandate shops having those high pitched noise things to stop teenagers hanging about. They are of course small time authoritarians in other ways as we saw with COVID or the increasingly pathetic lifestyle choices bans and taxes. 

This is what centrism is, and it will continue as we go through this potentially very long period of reduced growth and an end to cheap abundance as we know it up to and past the point that you look out the window (of your poorly made and ruinously expensive house that you can't do anything about because regulation was slashed to encourage house builders) and notice the road is now one big pothole, the library is only open 1 day a week, the high tech self-driving ambulances we outsourced keep crashing into pedestrians and isn't it strange that all the asylum seekers and homeless people just disappeared. That's if the country doesn't realise after a term of catastro-Keir that this is where we're going and instead decide to jump off in favour of the reconstituted ultra-reactionary Conservative and Reform Party.

The Greens are not even remotely liberal and 'centrist' is not actually the coherent doctrine you are trying to construct. 

Just because a political party is to the right of what you consider to be progressive does not make them automatically the centre. It does not make two completely different parties part of a uniting ideology or approach to government either. The 'economic orthodoxy' from which fiscal cuts has been an offshoot in the UK and other countries since 2010 is fundamentally 'recognised' by countless parties of the centre left.

Perhaps you should retrace the fortunes of our very own 'Scottish Syriza' party (RISE) to see how this tying of socio-economic fundamentalism to independence fared with the Scottish electorate. 

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10 minutes ago, Leith Green said:

Some of the replies to this tweet..........

 

 

Can be summarised as "YOU'RE THE REAL RACIST GET BACK TO YOUR OWN COUNTRY EVERY BRITTISH PERSON AGREES WITH ME"

The "everyone agrees with me" bit is so common among racists. Life must be very confusing for them.

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Just now, BFTD said:

Can be summarised as "YOU'RE THE REAL RACIST GET BACK TO YOUR OWN COUNTRY EVERY BRITTISH PERSON AGREES WITH ME"

The "everyone agrees with me" bit is so common among racists. Life must be very confusing for them.

I saw a - truly - incredible tweet from 30p Lee yesterday.

In a normal society we would be shaking our heads that he was deputy leader of a mainstream political party until recently.

An out and out racist.

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8 minutes ago, Leith Green said:

I saw a - truly - incredible tweet from 30p Lee yesterday.

In a normal society we would be shaking our heads that he was deputy leader of a mainstream political party until recently.

An out and out racist.

Racism's acceptable again; you just pretend that everyone gets called a racist and you're cushty. "Meaningless, innit".

It's quite funny that the word still holds such power that racists react with horror when their dictionary-definition views are correctly labelled thus. I was sure they'd have proudly reclaimed it by now.

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5 hours ago, Leith Green said:

Some of the replies to this tweet..........

 

 

If your life doesn’t happen on social media, does it happen at all?

 

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  • 3 months later...

Humza Yousaf has been talking about the decisions that lead to his resignation at an event in the Edinburgh Festival.

https://news.stv.tv/scotland/i-fd-up-over-sacking-of-greens-which-led-to-my-resignation-admits-yousaf

It lays bare the massive misjudgement he made in sacking the Greens the way he did.  It would have been good to be a fly on the wall when, very quickly after the sacking, he and his team realised that the Greens weren't going to fall in line.

Another point made is the issue with the Cass Review, with Yousaf noting that the comments made by Patrick Harvie prompted people in the party to reach out.  The Scottish NHS have subsequently adopted the recommendations of the Cass Review (this was put out the day after the General Election, a Jo Moore special) I wonder if this could have impacted the Bute House AGreement - I don't think so as I am fairly sure that guidelines for medical treatment are not voted on or decided at that level.  It would have been another pressure on the BHA but probably not enough to cause it's end.

 

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