The Very Meh Humza Yousaf Thread.

[Juanhourjoe]

1 hour ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

Because they are Malthusian fruitlooops.

You're a malthusian fruithoop

[ScotiaNostra]

The writing was on the wall when the climate targets were dropped. That soundbite about the Scottish Greens being only green party in world rowing back on climate targets was getting reported round the world. It must have stung a bit as thats the core of the partys reason of existence. Id not have been surprised if the green party members would have voted against the bute agreement anyway.

Edited April 25 by ScotiaNostra

[Scary Bear]

I’ll give Humza this, he’s good at reading out a statement. I’ve come to believe that politicians only really need to be good public speakers to get on. In fact, not just politicians, that’s how society works. You could be a useless c**t but as long as you can speak well in public you are sorted.

[Freedom Farter]

Malthusianism is the idea that the number of humans should be limited. That's an idea from eco-fascism (for once, we can say literally the Nazis here, as they were eco-fascists). Folk are maybe confusing degrowth with malthusianism. Degrowth is about curbing unending capitalist expansion. It means scritinising things like the oil industry or the US military (the largest polluter of any single institution).

My criticism of European Green parties in general is that they spend their time rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic when the enormous looming iceberg is the problem. They work on the assumption we can't do anything to alter macroeconomic arrangements so instead focus on small stuff that leaves elite interests intact and just inconveniences common folk. We can and should be demanding change to the macroeconomic arrangements.

Edited April 25 by Freedom Farter

[Jim McLean's Ghost]

The Bute House agreement was one of the worst bits of politics Nicola ever did and it is perhaps a shame she is out the door before it blows up in the SNP's face.

There was absolutely no need for there to be a formal agreement and joint cabinet. Was Patrick Harvie really going to topple the govt over not getting a ministerial bike?

Humza ditching the Greens isn't a bad move imo.

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

2 hours ago, Dan Steele said:

With the Greens having gone public about their vote to end power-sharing and having seen their conference after being punted, is there not an argument that Yousaf is showing strong leadership? The opposition call of no-confidence in a "weak" Yousaf couldn't just be shallow politics and opportunism, could it?

I dont know why you put weak in the quote marks, the man is weaker than the spirits in an all inclusive hotel. 

[Dunning1874]

7 hours ago, Dunning1874 said:

Question is if it makes Yousaf look weaker or stronger in reality.

Well, it hasn't taken long for this to be answered.

[Miguel Sanchez]

"malthusian fruitloops" is Barclays P&B heritage, good to see it get an outing.

[betting competition]

Greens vote against Humza Yousaf in no confidence motion! 

[Dan Steele]

14 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:

I dont know why you put weak in the quote marks, the man is weaker than the spirits in an all inclusive hotel. 

Because it's quoting what the other parties are labelling him.

[Zen Archer (Raconteur)]

In other news, 2 Volvos for sale.

[Freedom Farter]

29 minutes ago, Miguel Sanchez said:

"malthusian fruitloops" is Barclays P&B heritage, good to see it get an outing.

Ah, a bit like "catastrophically bald". Oh well, too late now, already done my big serious response.

[GHF-23]

[diegomarahenry]

It should be a dream scenario, having a left leaning government, backed up by a green coalition and a partisan media keeping the whole thing in line. 

The greens have just been fucking daft and the SNP have done nothing but been on the back foot since Sturgeon resigned. With any luck this will shake things up a bit and we can get back to grown up politics again. 

Harvey said he'd resign if the party voted against the BHA. So he obviously didn't want to lose his ministerial allowance and was trying to sway his party. he was dumped and now just looks bitter and angry. 

[DeeTillEhDeh]

1 hour ago, Miguel Sanchez said:

"malthusian fruitloops" is Barclays P&B heritage, good to see it get an outing.

Glad to oblige.

[Jedi2]

The irony that it will now be Ash Reagan who keeps the Humza in office.

[DeeTillEhDeh]

4 minutes ago, diegomarahenry said:

It should be a dream scenario, having a left leaning government, backed up by a green coalition and a partisan media keeping the whole thing in line. 

The greens have just been fucking daft and the SNP have done nothing but been on the back foot since Sturgeon resigned. With any luck this will shake things up a bit and we can get back to grown up politics again. 

Harvey said he'd resign if the party voted against the BHA. So he obviously didn't want to lose his ministerial allowance and was trying to sway his party. he was dumped and now just looks bitter and angry. 

For the SNP maybe, certainly not for the likes of DRoss and Jabba Baillie.

[DeeTillEhDeh]

Just now, Jedi2 said:

The irony that it will now be Ash Reagan who keeps the Humza in office.

Ronald was buried not cremated . . .

[vikingTON]

1 hour ago, Freedom Farter said:

Malthusianism is the idea that the number of humans should be limited. That's an idea from eco-fascism (for once, we can say literally the Nazis here, as they were eco-fascists). Folk are maybe confusing degrowth with malthusianism. Degrowth is about curbing unending capitalist expansion. It means scritinising things like the oil industry or the US military (the largest polluter of any single institution).

My criticism of European Green parties in general is that they spend their time rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic when the enormous looming iceberg is the problem. They work on the assumption we can't do anything to alter macroeconomic arrangements so instead focus on small stuff that leaves elite interests intact and just inconveniences common folk. We can and should be demanding change to the macroeconomic arrangements.

Degrowth does nothing to explain how the lights will be kept on or the heating used in a still actually baltic country, never mind the unstoppable and rightful desire of billions of people to improve their standard of living above their current God-awful level. It also does nothing to address issues of how food is grown to make agriculture more productive and genuinely sustainable. 

Any Green political party that still outright rejects nuclear power and GM crops in favour of dung for dinner and here's a bottle tax alternatives does not represent a serious solution to their cause but are rather just 'back to nature' fruit loops. With the Malthusian consequences that would have for 8 billion people on the planet baked in to that perspective. 

Edited April 25 by vikingTON

[diegomarahenry]

1 minute ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

For the SNP maybe, certainly not for the likes of DRoss and Jabba Baillie.

Aye, The conservatives wont get in. I remember the shambles of McConnell & McLeish the last time labour got in and the massive unpicking of things the SNP had to do once in power, that and the fact Sarwar is as bright as a blackout. Labour would be a nightmare as well. 

Having a political party that is a branch office of an English party means that if both are in power, the policy will be mirrored. So we would likely have tuition fees, paid prescriptions, water meters, bedroom tax etc. 

Our only real hope of developing as a country just now is a sensible SNP government and we are miles away from that just now.