strichener Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, welshbairn said: The transcript of Sturgeon's Bute House speech works, but nothing about ring fencing. https://web.archive.org/web/20170613152512/https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/thesnp/pages/8202/attachments/original/1489573298/ButeHouseSpeech.pdf?1489573298 The SNP themselves stated that the funds were ringfenced. That part isn't disputed. Remember Nicola's "we work on a cashflow basis" answers? Contradicted by Ian McCann who stated that someone couldn't have a refund as the funds were ringfenced and couldn't be spent until Westminster issues a Section 30 order Quote Donations are in a ring-fenced fund to fight the next referendum whenever we are in a position to call that. As you are aware, the Scottish Parliament has passed enacting legislation to allow that to go ahead as soon as Westminster passes the Section 30 Order. We are not in a position to refund those monies Edited April 7, 2023 by strichener 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, strichener said: The donate link doesn't work. However you would have to be extremely generous in your interpretation of the site to think that it 2as for general SNP campaigning. how many mentions of the SNP can you see. How many mentions are there of raising money for general campaigning? But no actual donor form. That is the key thing because that’s the only way to legally tie in an individual's donation to ringfencing. Ethically wrong but not necessarily a criminal act. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 8 minutes ago, welshbairn said: The transcript of Sturgeon's Bute House speech works, but nothing about ring fencing. https://web.archive.org/web/20170613152512/https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/thesnp/pages/8202/attachments/original/1489573298/ButeHouseSpeech.pdf?1489573298 You can see here the SNP say the money is not for General Election spending https://www.thenational.scot/news/15344728.snp-all-the-money-raised-on-scotref-website-is-ringfenced-to-fight-a-future-independence-referendum/ From the date here it looks like the SNP spunked all that money on The Growth Commission. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 1 minute ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: But no actual donor form. That is the key thing because that’s the only way to legally tie in an individual's donation to ringfencing. Ethically wrong but not necessarily a criminal act. Of course there was a donor form. It also didn't mention the SNP. See the previous post for how the party themselves looked on these donations. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 Just now, strichener said: Of course there was a donor form. It also didn't mention the SNP. See the previous post for how the party themselves looked on these donations. Someone must surely have copy of the donor form - it's the first thing I'd be looking for. Bound to be in some archive or drive somewhere. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musketeer Gripweed Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 Auditors walk away from their clients all the time. Just last week I was reading about the auditors of Everton were considering resigning, so I am sure there is nothing to see here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorongil Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 6 hours ago, Leith Green said: Presumably JC audited the SNP accounts up until the last financial year? And for all the years that the £600k is being questioned? And if they signed them off (which they clearly did) then removing themselves for this year doesnt absolve them of any responsibility to ensure they are accurate. BBC has this as the "top story" on their Scotland section and have not posted the (rather obvious) commentary that I have above. BBC are really showing their colours this week. If the auditors had failed in their responsibility it would be their client sacking them, not them binning their client, and they would be facing liability costs and an investigation by the FRC. Nothing to suggest this is the case. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 59 minutes ago, strichener said: The donate link doesn't work. However you would have to be extremely generous in your interpretation of the site to think that it 2as for general SNP campaigning. how many mentions of the SNP can you see. How many mentions are there of raising money for general campaigning? How 1990s is that site? jesus f**k, 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, parsforlife said: How 1990s is that site? jesus f**k, I know, I certainly wouldn't be making a donation on a site like that!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 All this fuss and it turns out that the £600k was acquired by a 12-year old kid with a book on JavaScript forms and CSS instructions scribbled on a napkin. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alta-pete Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 2 hours ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: The prevailing view among accountants is that they have a right to report fraud where the public interest outweighs confidentiality to clients but not necessarily a duty to detect or warn about it. They don’t have a right, they have a duty. That’s the whole damn point of having an external auditor!! Ffs man. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 Everyone’s getting their side of the story out there. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/snp-plans-disclose-funding-scottish-independence-referendum-2023-9vscr3l6s 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 I see the Scottish Mail on Sunday is saying Police Scotland have seized a £110,000 luxury motorhome from Peter Murrell’s 92-year-old mother’s house in Fife. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moses1924 Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 33 minutes ago, Trogdor said: I see the Scottish Mail on Sunday is saying Police Scotland have seized a £110,000 luxury motorhome from Peter Murrell’s 92-year-old mother’s house in Fife. I thought that had to be a wind up until I went and checked the Mail on Sunday website, that is a very poor way to spend 100k. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 1 minute ago, moses1924 said: I thought that had to be a wind up until I went and checked the Mail on Sunday website, that is a very poor way to spend 100k. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheese Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moses1924 Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 As the caravan was found at his mother's house this seems appropriate... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTee Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 The non story of recent times. Politicians are corrupt lying arseholes. Tony Blair and Boris Johnson are right up there as the worst c***s. £600k for fucks sake. Nae right, but cmon tae f**k. I trust our young, who favour self governance over servitude. -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alta-pete Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alta-pete Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Russian oligarchs have their super yachts while our mob blow their ill gotten gains on a fucking caravan. How very tinpot. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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