Hedgecutter Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 As we probably all know, there's an increase in properties being used as personal holiday homes or Airbnb-type lets, ultimately preventing local-local-locals* from buying or even renting homes in the area they grew up in (cf. NW Highlands, Cornwall, etc). The big question: should people who grew up in a particular area be entitled to live there (whether that requires govt financial support, or long-settled vigilantes with pitchforks hounding out the incomers pricing them out), or should they suck it up as part of a capitalist society and move somewhere they can afford? This applies to those used to living in swanky parts of Edinburgh/Glasgow as well as the pretty mountain bits. Discuss... *local = moved to the area with no local links other than being there on holiday; local-local = child of a local; local-local-local = child of a local-local. Capiche? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 Tories: "Its a free market people should be allowed to do what they want (except brown people, poor people and those who prefer self determination)" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 Yes, as long as it isn't near me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richey Edwards Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 Houses should be free, and will be free if you vote for the P&B Official Party at the next General Election*. *said houses will be made of corrugated iron and papier-mâché. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 I know people who grew up in the remote Highlands, absolutely hated it, couldn't wait to escape and now live a big city somewhere else in the world. I also know other people who hated the big city, moved to the remote Highlands and absolutely love it. So who should be entitled to live there? The people who will make it thrive. The problem with AirBNB, second homes and the like is when they do not contribute much to the local economy or local community. Other than that, I couldn't care less where they came from in the first place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Joe Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 24 minutes ago, Hedgecutter said: As we probably all know, there's an increase in properties being used as personal holiday homes or Airbnb-type lets, ultimately preventing local-local-locals* from buying or even renting homes in the area they grew up in (cf. NW Highlands, Cornwall, etc). The big question: should people who grew up in a particular area be entitled to live there (whether that requires govt financial support, or long-settled vigilantes with pitchforks hounding out the incomers pricing them out), or should they suck it up as part of a capitalist society and move somewhere they can afford? This applies to those used to living in swanky parts of Edinburgh/Glasgow as well as the pretty mountain bits. Discuss... *local = moved to the area with no local links other than being there on holiday; local-local = child of a local; local-local-local = child of a local-local. Capiche? Ask Rangers FC. They are experts on entitlement -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted April 13, 2023 Author Share Posted April 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, Fullerene said: I know people who grew up in the remote Highlands, absolutely hated it, couldn't wait to escape and now live a big city somewhere else in the world. Long-winded way of saying Inverness. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 f**k Air BnB and people snatching up every affordable house to rent them at 2x the mortgage price, there should be more regulations to stop these c***s. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alta-pete Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 To a degree, it is being addressed by the additional Second Home levy on the LBTT (Stamp Duty as was) at the point of purchase. But I do have sympathy with the local locals and I'd tax the f**k out of it. Both in LBTT and an ongoing levy on the Council Tax. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 I don't think there should be an entitlement per se. In fact it is good for people to move outwith their comfort zone a lot of the time, when they are younger. Whether that be for education, work, a relationship or just a change of scene for a few years. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 The tyrannical idea that people are entitled to live within a community and form social bonds together, thankfully that was long ago banished to the dustbin of communist history. The battle we now face is to end this notion that people are entitled to live within a family. Any new homes built must have each individual bedroom privatised to open them up to the market. If we find that entire families then start buying up all the bedooms within the one house then antitrust laws will need introduced to stop such monopolies and to ensure competition. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian1 Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 16 minutes ago, Empty It said: f**k Air BnB and people snatching up every affordable house to rent them at 2x the mortgage price, there should be more regulations to stop these c***s. There needs a much higher tax on the purchase of a second home. If it is increased to say 40% then that would deter a huge number of second home owners and make it a market that locals can possibly compete in. If you're buying a home in Scotland you'll pay Land and Buildings Transaction Tax (LBTT) on properties costing more than £145,000. If you're buying an additional property, you might need to pay an extra 4% on the total purchase price of the property, as well as the standard rates of LBTT that may apply. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpetmonster Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 Slightly different angle on it but good piece in the Graun today about families disappearing from London https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/apr/13/city-without-children-dystopia-new-reality-london 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted April 13, 2023 Author Share Posted April 13, 2023 10 minutes ago, carpetmonster said: Slightly different angle on it but good piece in the Graun today about families disappearing from London https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/apr/13/city-without-children-dystopia-new-reality-london Nah, that's just a smokescreen to cover for these guys. Don't fall for it. Keep our kids in line by telling them they'll get put on a train going to Central London unless they behave. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpetmonster Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, Hedgecutter said: Nah, that's just a smokescreen to cover for these guys. Don't fall for it. Keep our kids in line by telling them they'll get put on a train going to Central London unless they behave. It's an empty threat to kids these days. It's a pity he abandoned his Scottish awareness outreach campaign after having only done bits of Fife 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 1 hour ago, FreedomFarter said: The tyrannical idea that people are entitled to live within a community and form social bonds together, thankfully that was long ago banished to the dustbin of communist history. The battle we now face is to end this notion that people are entitled to live within a family. Any new homes built must have each individual bedroom privatised to open them up to the market. If we find that entire families then start buying up all the bedooms within the one house then antitrust laws will need introduced to stop such monopolies and to ensure competition. This is very, very good. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 18 minutes ago, carpetmonster said: It's an empty threat to kids these days. It's a pity he abandoned his Scottish awareness outreach campaign after having only done bits of Fife He can't hold a candle to Cassidy Ludwig. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richey Edwards Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 How about people who never grew up? Where should they live? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, Richey Edwards said: How about people who never grew up? Where should they live? Oz. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 5 minutes ago, Richey Edwards said: How about people who never grew up? Where should they live? In the Ibrox Board room 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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