Dundee Hibernian Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 Surprised there’s not a thread about this on the Premiership forum. What are your thoughts and opinions on the proposed Conference League at level 5 of the Scottish Pyramid? I think there’s a lot of anger over this further down the leagues, and I’m wholly against the plan, which in my view would affect the whole of Scottish football, not just teams in the lower levels. But am I missing something? Is mine a kneejerk reaction to a new concept? Are there any positives in placing a league containing B teams and some Highland and Lowland League clubs in below the present League Two? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PauloPerth Posted May 1, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2023 Absolute nonsense and solely for the benefit of the big two and hangers-on hearts and whoever else joins them because they don’t want to miss out. They’re cleverly manipulating their way into the league over time. There’s not a strong coordinated stance against the changes to the set up, and if this goes through it’s only a matter of a few years before Colts teams are allowed to get promoted into the SPFL. It’s death by a thousand cuts that started with the challenge cup, followed by bribing their way into the pyramid. Folk have to ignore individual club allegiances on these things, I won’t ever watch St Johnstone B team play in the challenge cup and hope they get knocked out at the first opportunity for example. Reserve teams should play in reserve/ under 21 leagues. 41 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dav nan Gael Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 It's a hutch of pish............. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 (edited) Even though I'm not personally against b teams the idea of nearly half the league having them sounds shit. We also don't need another national league any time soon either. There's already been a fair bit of upheaval in the leagues so don't think such a radical change is needed again right now. Edited May 1, 2023 by gannonball 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 It sounds contrived but I haven’t seen the proposals laid out in a simple format. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLIS Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 (edited) Against it, it's a load of shite. We should be looking at making the SPFL leagues bigger and getting rid of one, not adding more for the sake of it Edited May 1, 2023 by ATLIS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 Absolute no from me. The impact it would have on the ambitions of teams down the pyramid would be huge for no benefit to Scottish football overall. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 2 hours ago, Dundee Hibernian said: Surprised there’s not a thread about this on the Premiership forum. What are your thoughts and opinions on the proposed Conference League at level 5 of the Scottish Pyramid? I think there’s a lot of anger over this further down the leagues, and I’m wholly against the plan, which in my view would affect the whole of Scottish football, not just teams in the lower levels. But am I missing something? Is mine a kneejerk reaction to a new concept? Are there any positives in placing a league containing B teams and some Highland and Lowland League clubs in below the present League Two? I see it as two goals. Rangers and Celtic have been pushing for their b teams to get in the leagues for ages. Smaller teams don't want to drop into the highland league. There is nothing really worthwhile about it for B teams imo. The SPFL should have nipped this in the bud and made a mandatory youth reserve league. To me the effect is going to be either the end of the highland league or it will go back to being its own thing and not in the pyramid. Junior football in all but name. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve McQueen Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 I actually think it'll harm the chances of some players. Teams will have to have 20+ players playing very low level football. These players can't win the league below where they'll be placed. Players that would be released or on loan at bottom 6 or championship teams will have to hang around having no chance of progression. They would only work against full time teams but why would you ruin the championship. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 Id say "get it in the sea", but theres far too much shite getting pumped in there just now anyway. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 Absolute shite and if Utd got involved they could ram it. Apart from anything else I don't even know why Rangers and Celtic want it. The clubs they are competing with for talent can offer more than games against Edinburgh Uni. I didn't mind B Teams when there was no pyramid. Eg Stranraer B helping make the SOSFL viable or Hibs B in the EOSFL but not now. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordon9736 Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 A quarter of Celtic B squad aren''t Scottish (6 out of 23) and Rangers B have at least 4 non Scots, so unless these players don't play, there's no way it'll benefit Scottish football like what they claim. The majority of the lower leagues don't want B teams and they make a mockery of The Challenge Cup and are often knocked out in the early rounds. As an aside, hopefully Spartans will be dumped by Brechin as they ware in support of B teams in the Lowland League. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CambieBud Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 I would like to think that fan owned St Mirren and Motherwell will vote against this abomination. It dilutes the pyramid for the perceived benefit of the bigot twins. There are zero pros to this ridiculous idea 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Empty It Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 2 hours ago, gannonball said: Even though I'm not personally against b teams the idea of nearly half the league having them sounds shit. We also don't need another national league any time soon either. There's already been a fair bit of upheaval in the leagues so don't think such a radical change is needed again right now. So you're not against B teams as long as only Celtic and Rangers have them. f**k B teams get them in the bin. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d31 Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 Absolutely stupid idea. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Empty It said: So you're not against B teams as long as only Celtic and Rangers have them. f**k B teams get them in the bin. Nope, I just think a new league with only 10 teams and 4 of them being b teams is a terrible idea. I don't really have a strong enough opinion on b teams tbh ,I get why people wouldn't want them in their league. Parachuting them in to a new national league above the regional leagues is also wrong. Edited May 1, 2023 by gannonball 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 Which forum has the best chat on this? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, ropy said: Which forum has the best chat on this? Everywhere needs to be talking about this. But for good protest LL has a lot of anger after their sniddy vote to encourage them 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dundee Hibernian Posted May 1, 2023 Author Share Posted May 1, 2023 7 minutes ago, ropy said: Which forum has the best chat on this? I see your point, but too many supporters seem either in the dark about the proposals, or complacent regarding the situation. And B teams have been affecting sides in the upper leagues for a time, a couple of years ago two young United players were offered terms to join one of the OF B clubs with a view to playing in the Lowland League, under a promise of progression into the first team squads if they performed well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santheman Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 1 hour ago, CambieBud said: I would like to think that fan owned St Mirren and Motherwell will vote against this abomination. It dilutes the pyramid for the perceived benefit of the bigot twins. There are zero pros to this ridiculous idea Constitution already written up and there's apparently to be no vote on it by clubs so looks like a done deal by all accounts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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