Sherrif John Bunnell Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 It's been some fall for the Trump campaign so soon after they were all doing victory laps in the days after the shooting. They seem to be completely unprepared for coming up against Harris, despite this looking like what was going to happen since at least the TV debate. Vance also seems like a terrible VP pick. He just come across as a thick version of Dominic Cummings. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKMAN Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 2 minutes ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said: Vance also seems like a terrible VP pick. He just come across as a thick version of Dominic Cummings. That's the bizarre thing about many American politicians. A lot of them come across as monumentally thick, but but then you see that they come from Ivy League law schools. Vance at Yale, Cruz at Harvard etc 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freedom Farter Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 2 minutes ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said: It's been some fall for the Trump campaign so soon after they were all doing victory laps in the days after the shooting. They seem to be completely unprepared for coming up against Harris, despite this looking like what was going to happen since at least the TV debate. Vance also seems like a terrible VP pick. He just come across as a thick version of Dominic Cummings. Remember all the "that photo has just won him the election" takes? Even donkeys on here dropped in to announce that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houston_bud Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 39 minutes ago, MONKMAN said: That's the bizarre thing about many American politicians. A lot of them come across as monumentally thick, but but then you see that they come from Ivy League law schools. Vance at Yale, Cruz at Harvard etc Same thing for many Oxbridge graduates here. Truss being prime example. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 1 hour ago, houston_bud said: Same thing for many Oxbridge graduates here. Truss being prime example. Burgess and McLean, Jeffrey Archer, the criminal owner of my football club.... the list is endless. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 18 minutes ago, O'Kelly Isley III said: Burgess and McLean, Jeffrey Archer, the criminal owner of my football club.... the list is endless. Were Burgess and McLean thick? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 2 hours ago, Granny Danger said: Were Burgess and McLean thick? As thieves, yes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 Challenge level: Impossible 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 2 hours ago, Granny Danger said: Were Burgess and McLean thick? Burgess was too pished to know either way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freedom Farter Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 Shapiro seems one of those wrecker Democrats who spend all their time helping the Republicans. Tried to divert $100M of funding for state schools to private schools instead. Not mentioned in that article but he also used public funds to settle a sexual harassment complaint against one of his inner circle. Supposedly the shortlist is down to Shapiro, Kelly, or Cooper. Of those, Shapiro is the obvious disaster pick and Cooper is the best option. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 A deeply unserious country species 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 8 hours ago, houston_bud said: Same thing for many Oxbridge graduates here. Truss being prime example. Truss was known as a moron among her fellow Cambridge undergrads. It doesn't take much in they way of logic skills or deductive reasoning to get an impressive degree if you work hard, have clear goals, have a good memory and are happy to regurgitate what you've learned. 4 hours ago, Cheese said: Challenge level: Impossible 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 13 minutes ago, GordonS said: Truss was known as a moron among her fellow Cambridge undergrads. It doesn't take much in they way of logic skills or deductive reasoning to get an impressive degree if you work hard, have clear goals, have a good memory and are happy to regurgitate what you've learned. That boy looks as if he's self-branded 'UVF' onto his forehead with a soldering iron. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvo Montalbano Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 47 minutes ago, Freedom Farter said: Supposedly the shortlist is down to Shapiro, Kelly, or Cooper. Of those, Shapiro is the obvious disaster pick and Cooper is the best option. I like Kelly, but then I'm an astronaut fanboi. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 I don't know much about them but I would have to agree that the astronaut would be cool. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpetmonster Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 5 minutes ago, Bully Wee Villa said: I don't know much about them but I would have to agree that the astronaut would be cool. Unions aren’t overly keen on him. https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/labor-unions-unite-kamala-harris-concern-emerges-potential/story?id=112198865 @Freedom Farter - have they gone floppy on Beshear? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freedom Farter Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 20 minutes ago, carpetmonster said: Unions aren’t overly keen on him. https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/labor-unions-unite-kamala-harris-concern-emerges-potential/story?id=112198865 @Freedom Farter - have they gone floppy on Beshear? You probably know more than me, I'm just going by quick scans of Twitter accounts I trust and the links they share. It was the Financial Times I got the "Shapiro, Kelly or Cooper" thing from: https://archive.ph/A08yi 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpetmonster Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 26 minutes ago, Freedom Farter said: You probably know more than me, I'm just going by quick scans of Twitter accounts I trust and the links they share. It was the Financial Times I got the "Shapiro, Kelly or Cooper" thing from: https://archive.ph/A08yi Ah, no worries; I’ve been charging around like a tit all day thus far and thought I’d missed something. Apparently Kelly has said he’ll sign the PRO act which might raise his standing, but then today ‘discreetly’ applauded Bibi with his hands down by his waist which might shitlist him given Kamala’s reticence to be anywhere near that at the minute. I’ve no idea what’ll happen. I’d weigh out the potentials thusly Shapiro - arsehole, but could deliver PA Beshear - good guy but won’t deliver KY Kelly - plays well countrywide because astronaut, also uniquely placed to talk political violence if they decide hammering Trump on J6 is the way forward; problems as above Pete - best candidate, won’t happen Walz - seems to be doing a good job in MN, very little national profile, bald Pritzker - Hugely popular in IL and may not want to leave at this point. Likely has a better handle on Chicago (and is certainly more well liked by its residents) than the very inexperienced Mayor, so Dems may want to keep him there to oversee that also. Cooper - know literally f**k all about him: must be decent if he can take NC as a Dem. Similar to Beshear tho, won’t bring the state with him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 1 hour ago, carpetmonster said: Unions aren’t overly keen on him. https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/labor-unions-unite-kamala-harris-concern-emerges-potential/story?id=112198865 @Freedom Farter - have they gone floppy on Beshear? He seems very supportive of reproduction rights, which, if played properly, could be the issue that the Dems can hammer Trump over. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 12 hours ago, houston_bud said: Do you know if there is any mechanism for the Republicans to replace the VP pick? If Trump's numbers start dropping, it would be hilarious to see him throw Vance under a bus. Shamelessly stolen: 1. Voluntary Withdrawal: If JD Vance decides to step down voluntarily, Trump can pick a new running mate. However, the RNC needs to give the green light for the new candidate[1]. It's not just a quick switcheroo. 2. RNC Rules and Procedures: The RNC has detailed rules and procedures for this scenario. Replacing a candidate means following a formal process, which might involve a vote by the party's national committee or even a special convention[1]. It's more like navigating a bureaucratic maze than filling out a quick form. 3. Political Implications: Politically, replacing a running mate can be a big deal. It might signal instability or raise questions about Trump's decision-making, potentially affecting voter confidence and the campaign's overall image[2]. It's a high-stakes move with significant risks. 4. Legal and Logistical Issues: There are also legal and logistical hurdles to consider, especially if ballots have already been printed or early voting has started in some states[3]. Each state has its own laws and deadlines for replacing candidates, adding another layer of complexity. In summary, while Trump can replace Vance, it involves a tangled web of party rules, political calculations, and legal challenges. It's possible but far from simple, making it a decision that requires careful consideration and strategic planning[4]. Citations: [1] https://prod-static.gop.com/media/documents/2024_Call_of_the_Convention_as_adopted_11.20.23_1700517775.pdf [2] https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trump-allies-reconsider-jd-vance-right-running-mate-rcna163172 [3] https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jd-vance-vp-trump-senate/ [4] https://www.politico.eu/article/joe-biden-out-jd-vance-wrong-pick-vice-president-donald-trump-us-election-2024/ [5] https://centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/the-down-ballot-consequences-of-trumps-vp-options/ [6] https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/16/upshot/vance-trump-vice-president.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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