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2 minutes ago, ICTChris said:

OK, time to take a vote.

Are they dead or alive?

I say - DEAD

I think they’re goners. I keep dipping into the BBC website and it really doesn’t change much over each passing day - banging noises, more search vehicles arriving, etc. No major development one way or the other. Unless there’s a dramatic last-gasp big announcement, I reckon they’ve had it. 
 

I assume that if they have had it, somehow, given time, these hi-tech French submersibles will eventually find the doomed sub, and we’ll learn if they got tangled up in the Titanic wreckage, or whatever. You’d think that somehow it’ll be found somewhere. Probably Largs beach the first weekend the schools go back.

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15 minutes ago, Richey Edwards said:

Can't stand these fucking glory hunters that think just because their vehicles go in water or through the air that they're better than me.

Yes, their vehicles can go to places mine cannot go. However, their fancy submarine couldn't hack the M77 at 8.30AM on a Tuesday morning.

What are duck boats? An explanation of the amphibious vehicles

 

Should be a piece of piss to make that submersible to the same standard as the lost one to be honest.

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34 minutes ago, Richey Edwards said:

Yes, their vehicles can go to places mine cannot go. However, their fancy submarine couldn't hack the M77 at 8.30AM on a Tuesday morning.

Tuesday evening in the Hampden car park would be a different matter...

 

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46 minutes ago, ICTChris said:

OK, time to take a vote.

Are they dead or alive?

I say - DEAD

Do the principles of Schrödinger’s cat apply here, as it’s a fixed group of participants, sealed into a container, with no observers? Imagining some Lloyd’s underwriter preparing an insurance payout denial with an argument that they aren’t dead,  but simply a cloud of possibilities, until someone finds the sub and peeks in.

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Tbf if the half-hourly noises were from mini-sub they may still be alive right now.

However as has been the case all along to then find and rescue them sadly remains vanishingly - soon impossibly - unlikely.


RAF now flying out Royal Navy personnel and equipment in a Globemaster - you do wonder if such international effort would go into say a missing yacht or trawler.

Whole scenario really mirrors the fate of the Titanic itself... Massive wealth, overconfidence in technical mastery of natural conditions, and unnecessary risk taking, combine in a fateful voyage with a likely tragic and potentially mysterious outcome - the 'splendour', 'intrigue' and 'drama' of which seems to grip world attention.

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1 minute ago, HibeeJibee said:

Tbf if the half-hourly noises were from mini-sub they may still be alive right now.

However as has been the case all along to then find and rescue them sadly remains vanishingly - soon impossibly - unlikely.


RAF now flying out Royal Navy personnel and equipment in a Globemaster - you do wonder if such international effort would go into say a missing yacht or trawler.

Whole scenario really mirrors the fate of the Titanic itself... Massive wealth, overconfidence in technical mastery of natural conditions, and unnecessary risk taking, combine in a fateful voyage with a likely tragic and potentially mysterious outcome - the 'splendour', 'intrigue' and 'drama' of which seems to grip world attention.

Also, a shit-ton of money spent on a cutting edge marine vessel, said to be the future...

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13 minutes ago, ClydeTon said:

Also, a shit-ton of money spent on a cutting edge marine vessel, said to be the future...

Plus the 'jet set' identity of those aboard.

Everybody has heard of Titanic; most of Lusitania; how many Empress of Ireland?

Yet she sank year between and more passengers died:

RMS Empress of Ireland - Wikipedia

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4 hours ago, Derry Alli said:

To be fair, I only used Stonehenge as a terrible example. There would be a lot more people doing it if it was more affordable, I think there is a strong whiff of jealousy on the part of people because of the cost but it's most likely pocket change to these folk. 

 

15 minutes ago, HibeeJibee said:

RAF now flying out Royal Navy personnel and equipment in a Globemaster

Hopefully these folk can use the rest of their pocket change to pay for our RAF chucking folk at their affordable hobby. 

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6 minutes ago, HibeeJibee said:

Tbf if the half-hourly noises were from mini-sub they may still be alive right now.

Supposedly the noises being 'half-hourly' are just misreporting from Rolling Stone. It was just banging noises from near the surface. Could be them, but just as likely it's someone dropping a toolbox in another rescue vessel a couple of miles over.

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3 minutes ago, Aim Here said:

Supposedly the noises being 'half-hourly' are just misreporting from Rolling Stone. It was just banging noises from near the surface. Could be them, but just as likely it's someone dropping a toolbox in another rescue vessel a couple of miles over.

They were right a right bunch of noisy fishermen in Deadliest Catch. 

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