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5 hours ago, diegomarahenry said:

People, grown adults think wrestling is real. 

No they don't.

2 hours ago, Monkey Tennis said:

I think P&B is actually interesting in terms of charting changes in sensibilities.

Obviously, it's always relied on a certain irreverence, but things we'd deem thoroughly unacceptable now, weren't just present a decade or so back: they were popular.

Rape jokes, references to rape vans etc went down a storm - they really did.  It's kinda uncomfortable.  Our attitudes shift quickly, and most of us reach them less independently than we'd like to think.

The current favourite, although it is dying down a bit, is calling folk a nonce. Hopefully that quickly goes the way of the stuff you've noted.

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1 hour ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

 Petersen on the other hand believes in what he says and knows what he is talking about inside out.  Brand's intellectualism is puddle deep compared to Petersen.

 

1 hour ago, oneteaminglasgow said:

What?

 

1 hour ago, Jaggy McJagface said:

In hindsight, the Brand of 2013-16 kind of struck me as a sort of left wing version of Peterson. Pseudo intellectual word salad.

 

1 hour ago, Jaggy McJagface said:

Peterson is a fraud. He’s a clinical psychologist who opines on absolutely everything from politics, history, science and climate change as if he is an expert in those fields as well.

If you deconstruct what he says in those fields it is (similar to Brand) usually a lot of nonsense hidden behind the veneer of respectability because they can throw out a lot of intellectual sounding words.

 

Interesting, but lengthy, article on Peterson :-

https://www.currentaffairs.org/2018/03/the-intellectual-we-deserve

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3 hours ago, RandomGuy. said:

I've not watched it for a long time (is it still going?) but very few people ever seemed to host that show and not get taken apart, tbf.

They knew your weakness before hiring you and just exploited it ruthlessly.

Not sure how many you ever watched but the hosts are very rarely taken apart.  Occasional ribbing if they make an arse of it but that's about it.

There is the odd host right enough, Angus Deayton (quite rightly) and Boris being obvious examples of that though.

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8 hours ago, diegomarahenry said:

Up all night watching summer slam wearing a big plastic belt type post. 

Top old to stay up all night watching them these days. No plastic belts.

7 hours ago, Granny Danger said:

 

Isn’t there a wrestling thread on here?

Yes.

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4 hours ago, Dee Man said:

Can’t believe people are getting worked up over completely harmless phrases like ‘wid’ or kick her in the pie’ on a football forum, unless of course you think they are to be taken literally. 
 

Overused, shite patter - yes. 
 

Dangerous language liable to lead to the breakdown of morals in society - probably not. 
 

How sanitised and boring do folk want life to be?

Absolutely. Boot in the pie is a completely non-sexual, jocular response to a situation where, if it were a male you'd say they were due a boot in the baws. A chiding or reminder that they are in danger of crossing the line between acceptable and unacceptable when having a joke, or an idle threat to stop a situation escalating. I very much doubt such a boot has ever been administered in these types of exchanges, nor any great offence on either side.

The sexual, racist, homophobic, misogynistic etc stuff rightly needs called out and binned, but you'd be in danger of over sanitising and making the world a very boring place if that sort of stuff between like minded folk, tired as it may be, was considered dangerous or overly derogatory.

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5 hours ago, Dee Man said:

Can’t believe people are getting worked up over completely harmless phrases like ‘wid’ or kick her in the pie’ on a football forum, unless of course you think they are to be taken literally. 
 

Overused, shite patter - yes. 
 

Dangerous language liable to lead to the breakdown of morals in society - probably not. 
 

How sanitised and boring do folk want life to be?

You have to be seen to be right on, particularly on the Internet. Call out everything and anything. 

Do what you like in real life though.

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10 hours ago, Loonytoons said:

Not sure how many you ever watched but the hosts are very rarely taken apart.  Occasional ribbing if they make an arse of it but that's about it.

There is the odd host right enough, Angus Deayton (quite rightly) and Boris being obvious examples of that though.

Gary Neville was the last guest host given a hard time.

Hislop weighed in about his stance on the last men's world cup.

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5 hours ago, Dee Man said:

Can’t believe people are getting worked up over completely harmless phrases like ‘wid’ or kick her in the pie’ on a football forum, unless of course you think they are to be taken literally. 

I brought it up as a comparison with the Lads Mags media culture in the noughties, my point being that people weren't actually going around kicking women in the c**t because of it, and neither were they cutting their ex's faces so nobody would shag them. The power of the media and jokes to normalise bad behaviour is well overblown imo.

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46 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

I brought it up as a comparison with the Lads Mags media culture in the noughties, my point being that people weren't actually going around kicking women in the c**t because of it, and neither were they cutting their ex's faces so nobody would shag them. The power of the media and jokes to normalise bad behaviour is well overblown imo.

It did happen a few times, likewise with acid attacks. 

Now, for a guy to take an action like this, he has to be evil/deranged. But feeling that society, fronted by celebrities saying "yeah, this is fine", approves even tacitly may have had an influence. 

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