GuyIncognito Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 https://www.facebook.com/ayrshiredailynews/videos/1506804263455161/ Absolutely not a surprise that something like this would happen especially considering how its been treated by the council. Should've been knocked down years ago. Firefighters don't even look close to putting it out with the centre of the blaze being at the top of the building. Really concerning. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richey Edwards Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 (edited) It's been on fire a few times now. Maybe it should be renamed the Michael Moffat hotel. Edited September 25, 2023 by Richey Edwards 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 (edited) Thousands of pounds worth of improvement, it looks like. Edited September 25, 2023 by Derry Alli 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurkst Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 Unfortunately timed article in the Herald today... https://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/23809253.great-scottish-hotel-want-destroy-mustnt-let/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 Enjoy the new flats guys. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuyIncognito Posted September 25, 2023 Author Share Posted September 25, 2023 Just now, Ziggy Sobotka said: Enjoy the new flats guys. Would prefer that to what it is now. Great potential to make the train station really nice alongside new shops/flats. Of course the odds of that actually happening are very slim! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuyIncognito Posted September 25, 2023 Author Share Posted September 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, Richey Edwards said: It's been on fire a few times now. Maybe it should be renamed the Michael Moffat hotel. When was the last time it was on fire? Don't ever remember this happening before. Also just realised that Ayrshire seems to have a weird pattern of buildings catching fire, Bellisle House, Troon station, now this 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richey Edwards Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 Just now, GuyIncognito said: When was the last time it was on fire? Don't ever remember this happening before. Also just realised that Ayrshire seems to have a weird pattern of buildings catching fire, Bellisle House, Troon station, now this Not that long ago. A few months back. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/ayrshire/ayr-station-hotel-fire-urgent-30104650 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUcal Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 12 minutes ago, GuyIncognito said: When was the last time it was on fire? Don't ever remember this happening before. Also just realised that Ayrshire seems to have a weird pattern of buildings catching fire, Bellisle House, Troon station, now this The old Elms court hotel in Ayr a couple years back as well. Station is fucked, whole thing is engulfed. Absolute mess that it's been left for as long as it has tbh. Might finally get the long awaited station redevelopment... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipa Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 Pretty sure there was a situation some years back where the train service was reduced, the hotel being in a state of almost collapse. Should it have been demoloshed then? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuyIncognito Posted September 25, 2023 Author Share Posted September 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, AuAl said: The old Elms court hotel in Ayr a couple years back as well. Station is fucked, whole thing is engulfed. Absolute mess that it's been left for as long as it has tbh. Might finally get the long awaited station redevelopment... Facebook livestream is only showing one side. Is the side facing the platforms looking bad then? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuyIncognito Posted September 25, 2023 Author Share Posted September 25, 2023 Just now, Shipa said: Pretty sure there was a situation some years back where the train service was reduced, the hotel being in a state of almost collapse. Should it have been demoloshed then? Yes in 2018 they found the whole thing's structure was completely fucked so there's been scaffolding and parts of the station shut ever since. It should've been knocked down then, but old people with too much time on their hands and uncooperative owners from the other side of the world haven't helped, which has led to this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 28 minutes ago, GuyIncognito said: https://www.facebook.com/ayrshiredailynews/videos/1506804263455161/ Absolutely not a surprise that something like this would happen especially considering how its been treated by the council. Should've been knocked down years ago. Firefighters don't even look close to putting it out with the centre of the blaze being at the top of the building. Really concerning. The Council can't knock down a privately owned property. They were legally obliged to make it safe but that's where their obligation or legal powers ended. It's been done to death locally but the bottom line remains it's owned by an overseas individual who refused point blank to enter into any dialogue over it's safety or future. Today's outcome is probably for the best assuming of course no one is hurt. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUcal Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 8 minutes ago, GuyIncognito said: Facebook livestream is only showing one side. Is the side facing the platforms looking bad then? Aye seen quite a few photos from burns statue square, the tower/ spire bit has already collapsed in 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuyIncognito Posted September 25, 2023 Author Share Posted September 25, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: The Council can't knock down a privately owned property. They were legally obliged to make it safe but that's where their obligation or legal powers ended. It's been done to death locally but the bottom line remains it's owned by an overseas individual who refused point blank to enter into any dialogue over it's safety or future. Today's outcome is probably for the best assuming of course no one is hurt. The council could've at least came to an official stance of knocking it down and then drawing up plans on what to do with it, which would've put the Malaysian guy or whoever it is who owns it in a much weaker position when negoiating. But no they've wasted time trying to appease a small number of old people who only want to keep it because "I remember back in the olden days when my cousins/whoever came to visit and they stayed there and it looked lovely etc etc", when the vast majority of taxpayers want it gone. However I do agree that what happened today, although a bit sad, is the best outcome. Edited September 25, 2023 by GuyIncognito 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipa Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: The Council can't knock down a privately owned property. They were legally obliged to make it safe but that's where their obligation or legal powers ended. It's been done to death locally but the bottom line remains it's owned by an overseas individual who refused point blank to enter into any dialogue over it's safety or future. Today's outcome is probably for the best assuming of course no one is hurt. It's nuts though, that when a building is a danger to the public, and will continue to worsen, they can't order demolotion. We have one in Perth, which is now being demolished about 20 years later; the cafe next door still has the tables set for the next day, before they were told, back then, that they could not enter the building. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 Just now, GuyIncognito said: The council could've at least came to an official stance of knocking it down and then drawing up plans on what to do with it, which would've put the Malaysian guy or whoever it is who owns it in a much weaker position when negoiating. But no they've wasted time trying to appease a small number of old people who only want to keep it because "I remember back in the olden days when my cousins/whoever came to visit and they stayed there and it looked lovely etc etc", when the vast majority of taxpayers want it gone. Christ dont start me on that mob "The friends of Ayr Station" utter old darts stuch firmly in the 1950s. The stance you state above has very much been that of the various different council administrations over the years this has been dragging on. There has been numerous attempts at engagement without success. Will be very interesting to see if it ever comes to light who has been responsible for the blaze today but as I say this will surely break the impasse one way or another. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, Shipa said: It's nuts though, that when a building is a danger to the public, and will continue to worsen, they can't order demolotion. We have one in Perth, which is now being demolished about 20 years later; the cafe next door still has the tables set for the next day, before they were told, back then, that they could not enter the building. Fully agree but as it stands that is the law. It's why we see so many if these "mysterious" fires in derelict properties. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Ferguson's Hat Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 It's beyond repayr. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipa Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: Fully agree but as it stands that is the law. It's why we see so many if these "mysterious" fires in derelict properties. "Normal Island thread for this pish..." That the law puts at risk tenants, emergency services, and the general public, to the benefit of property owners, should come as no surprise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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