Donathan Posted October 6, 2023 Author Share Posted October 6, 2023 26 minutes ago, The Naitch said: FIFA want 2034 bids in by the end of the month but they can’t be arsed sorting out a host for the 2027 Women’s World Cup. Farcical. They’re clearly rushing the process to prevent any of Australia (and/or New Zealand), China, Japan (and/or South Korea) or any other Asian country being able build a credible alternative bid. It’s an utter sham. IMO the host nation for each World Cup should be appointed at a FIFA meeting during the World Cup 8 years prior. The 2030 hosts should have been determined during Qatar and 2034 should be determined during the 2026 World Cup. 8 years is a perfectly good turnaround time. The bidding process should run for a year or two leading up to this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted October 6, 2023 Author Share Posted October 6, 2023 Panama and Puerto Rico have announced they are supporting the Saudi bid for 2034 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) FIFA now announced 2030 will last significantly longer than any previous edition: 6 weeks. Opening games on Sat/Sun 8th/9th June, then gap to Thu 13th, plus knockouts extended with Final a week 'late' on Sun 21st July. Traditionally it lasts 4 weeks... plus a couple of days given Thu or Fri opening game... so basically it's grown by almost 50%. Club World Cup 2025 will have 3 group games + 4 KO rounds: 2025 FIFA Club World Cup - Wikipedia Edited October 9, 2023 by HibeeJibee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 On 06/10/2023 at 19:01, Donathan said: Panama and Puerto Rico have announced they are supporting the Saudi bid for 2034 Give Panama and Puerto Rico the opening games, FIFA, you know you want to. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Patterson Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Australian press reporting that a joint Australian-Indonesian bid is being considered. Probably not the worst idea in the world. The threshold for eligible bids is 14 stadiums - 9-10 in Australia and 4-5 in Indonesia seems feasible Adapting their 2022 bid documents for 2034. Australia has currently has seven suitable venues, three stadiums needing renovation/expansion and one totally rebuilt stadium. Melbourne Cricket Ground, Victoria - 100,000 Stadium Australia (Sydney Olympic Stadium), NSW - 84,000 Optus Stadium, Perth, WA- 61,000 (expandable to 70,000) Adelaide Oval, SA- 53,000 Lang Park, Brisbane, Queensland- 52,000 Allianz Stadium, Sydney, NSW - 45,500 Kardina Park, Geelong, Victoria - 40,000 Newcastle Stadium, NSW - 33,000 (expanded to 42,000) Townsville Stadium, Queensland - 26,000 (expanded to 40,000) Cararra Stadium, Gold Coast, Queensland - 22,000 (temp. expansion to 40,000) New Canberra Stadium, ACT - 40,000 (on site of current 25k stadium) Indonesia also put in a solo bid for the 2022 tournament, however their bid relied on very few existing stadia. A number of grounds have been built in the 13 years since, but transport infrastructure will be problematic. Anyway when it comes to stadiums Indonesia has four World Cup standard stadiums, currently: Jakarta International Stadium - 82,000 (built in 2022) Gelora Bung Karno Stadium, Jakarta - 77,193 (renovated in 2018) Gelora Bung Tomo Stadium, Surabaya, East Java - 45,000 (renovated in 2020) Batakan Stadium, East Kalimantan - 40,000 (built in 2017) There a few other stadiums that could be renovated - and as a country of 200 million there's certainly demand for modern stadia. There's currently 16 stadiums of a capacity of 30000 or more in addition to the ones listed, with some needing only minor expansion/renovation to be up to World Cup standard. But others including the one that had that stadium crush a couple of years back need serious overhauls. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spyro Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eednud Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 On 12/10/2023 at 11:39, Ray Patterson said: Australian press reporting that a joint Australian-Indonesian bid is being considered. Indonesia offered a bigger bung https://japantoday.com/category/sports/saudi-arabia's-2034-world-cup-bid-boosted-by-indonesia-changing-sides-after-australia-co-host-talks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 (edited) Seems like game over, over a hundred countries are backing the Saudi 2034 bid apparently. Not sure when it would be held given that Ramadan is scheduled for November-December that year and FIFA previously promised the IOC that they wouldn't arrange a World Cup to clash with the Winter Olympics. Maybe it wouldn't be too hot if they had the World Cup start a week or so after the Winter Olympics so held from late February to March or something like that. Edited October 19, 2023 by Bully Wee Villa 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted October 19, 2023 Author Share Posted October 19, 2023 29 minutes ago, Bully Wee Villa said: Seems like game over, over a hundred countries are backing the Saudi 2034 bid apparently. Not sure when it would be held given that Ramadan is scheduled for November-December that year and FIFA previously promised the IOC that they wouldn't arrange a World Cup to clash with the Winter Olympics. Maybe it wouldn't be too hot if they had the World Cup start a week or so after the Winter Olympics so held from late February to March or something like that. If they can’t do it in the usual summer slot, they shouldn’t be allowed to do it at all. Ramadan finishes on 10th December and the Winter Olympics doesn’t normally start until about a week into February so I guess you could start it on around Boxing Day with the bulk of the tournament going through January and the final taking place in early Feb just before the Winter Olympics starts. You could even have a super Sunday with the World Cup final in the afternoon then the Super Bowl at night. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted October 19, 2023 Author Share Posted October 19, 2023 Also there’s a lot of talk that these joint bids are a travesty for the fan. Unless you’re unlucky enough to be one of the three teams drawn to play in South America, the 2030 WC on the Iberian peninsula will be absolutely fine. So will euro 2028. I hope the tournaments are arranged sensibly such that most teams route to the latter stages takes place in a single country, and then it’ll be absolutely fine for the fans. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Donathan said: If they can’t do it in the usual summer slot, they shouldn’t be allowed to do it at all. Fundamentally disagree with this. However your scheme to have it before the Winter Olympics wouldn't work as that would push it close to the previous Ramadan. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 Spain and Morocco in July isn't much cooler than Saudi Arabia, I swore I wouldn't go again midsummer about 20 years ago, and it's supposedly hotter now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 I'd guess Morocco will just be hosting late kick-offs when it's a bit cooler. Not great for the fans that will spend all day on the piss in 45 degree heat in the meantime. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 Maybe Winter World Cups should become the norm, I thought the players in Qatar looked fresher than previous tournaments. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 1 hour ago, welshbairn said: Maybe Winter World Cups should become the norm, I thought the players in Qatar looked fresher than previous tournaments. Tired squads had definitely become a big issue in recent decades; I do remember thinking that countries like France & Argentina did look impressively energetic going into the final games last winter. I suppose the issue is more clubs being happy to give up their best players mid-season again, but were there any complaints about the top players seeming particularly tired by the end of last season? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 I'm down with Winter World Cups. In the summer it's a pain if you're on a piss up and some people want to sit outside and others (well, me) want to watch the football. Nobody wants to sit outside in November. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moorie Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 On 09/10/2023 at 18:58, HibeeJibee said: FIFA now announced 2030 will last significantly longer than any previous edition: 6 weeks. Opening games on Sat/Sun 8th/9th June, then gap to Thu 13th, plus knockouts extended with Final a week 'late' on Sun 21st July. Traditionally it lasts 4 weeks... plus a couple of days given Thu or Fri opening game... so basically it's grown by almost 50%. Club World Cup 2025 will have 3 group games + 4 KO rounds: 2025 FIFA Club World Cup - Wikipedia Prefer the final second week of July always falls on the Aberdeen holiday so plenty beers without work the next day. TITP was also ideal for this too 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandmac Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 On 12/10/2023 at 02:09, Ray Patterson said: Australian press reporting that a joint Australian-Indonesian bid is being considered. Probably not the worst idea in the world. The threshold for eligible bids is 14 stadiums - 9-10 in Australia and 4-5 in Indonesia seems feasible Adapting their 2022 bid documents for 2034. Australia has currently has seven suitable venues, three stadiums needing renovation/expansion and one totally rebuilt stadium. Melbourne Cricket Ground, Victoria - 100,000 Stadium Australia (Sydney Olympic Stadium), NSW - 84,000 Optus Stadium, Perth, WA- 61,000 (expandable to 70,000) Adelaide Oval, SA- 53,000 Lang Park, Brisbane, Queensland- 52,000 Allianz Stadium, Sydney, NSW - 45,500 Kardina Park, Geelong, Victoria - 40,000 Newcastle Stadium, NSW - 33,000 (expanded to 42,000) Townsville Stadium, Queensland - 26,000 (expanded to 40,000) Cararra Stadium, Gold Coast, Queensland - 22,000 (temp. expansion to 40,000) New Canberra Stadium, ACT - 40,000 (on site of current 25k stadium) Indonesia also put in a solo bid for the 2022 tournament, however their bid relied on very few existing stadia. A number of grounds have been built in the 13 years since, but transport infrastructure will be problematic. Anyway when it comes to stadiums Indonesia has four World Cup standard stadiums, currently: Jakarta International Stadium - 82,000 (built in 2022) Gelora Bung Karno Stadium, Jakarta - 77,193 (renovated in 2018) Gelora Bung Tomo Stadium, Surabaya, East Java - 45,000 (renovated in 2020) Batakan Stadium, East Kalimantan - 40,000 (built in 2017) There a few other stadiums that could be renovated - and as a country of 200 million there's certainly demand for modern stadia. There's currently 16 stadiums of a capacity of 30000 or more in addition to the ones listed, with some needing only minor expansion/renovation to be up to World Cup standard. But others including the one that had that stadium crush a couple of years back need serious overhauls. Not that Australia has any hope of getting '34,but doing it with Indonesia,given how they fucked up being allowed to host this years u20 world cup,is surely the kiss of death for whatever miniscule chance they might have had 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richey Edwards Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 Hopefully this World Cup never happens. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molotov Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, Richey Edwards said: Hopefully this World Cup never happens. The way the world is going right now that might be the case. Just when Scotland were to become a dominant force! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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