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1 hour ago, Cheese said:

Imagine if one of them had actually won.

Nigel Farage won and he doesn’t exist.  He’s a character from a nightmare brought on by hallucinogenic drugs.  Bad hallucinogenic drugs.

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Reform only lost eleven deposits in Scotland. They only came fifth or worse in fourteen constituencies. 

If this had been Alba or the SSP (or Solidarity or Rise or any of the other offshoots) who got a result like this it would be a big Scottish political story. As noted, they basically didn’t campaign in Scotland and looking through their he results to check how many deposits they lost I honestly hadn’t heard of any of their candidates. In terms of Scottish organisation, there appears to be a shell website listed for Reform in Scotland but it doesn’t have any details really.

Interestingly, it has a contact name for them and an address- 15 Forth Street in Glasgow. Had a look on Google Maps and found this -

https://maps.app.goo.gl/mXhjFXpcr55Q55c96?g_st=iw

 

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2 minutes ago, ICTChris said:

 

Reform only lost eleven deposits in Scotland. They only came fifth or worse in fourteen constituencies. 

If this had been Alba or the SSP (or Solidarity or Rise or any of the other offshoots) who got a result like this it would be a big Scottish political story. As noted, they basically didn’t campaign in Scotland and looking through their he results to check how many deposits they lost I honestly hadn’t heard of any of their candidates. In terms of Scottish organisation, there appears to be a shell website listed for Reform in Scotland but it doesn’t have any details really.

Interestingly, it has a contact name for them and an address- 15 Forth Street in Glasgow. Had a look on Google Maps and found this -

https://maps.app.goo.gl/mXhjFXpcr55Q55c96?g_st=iw

 

They didn’t campaign in Scotland but Farage was never off the TV and radio and constantly quoted in other MSM.

They did his campaigning for him.

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4 hours ago, The DA said:

Apologies if this has been mentioned already (I'm not reading back through this cesspit) but Twitter suggests there might be a scandal brewing and that the election might need to be re-run.

It looks like a number of the Reform candidates might not exist and have been created purely to take votes away from the Tories.

This thread is interesting.

I do like a goo scandal. Hope it's true.

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1 hour ago, ICTChris said:

 

Reform only lost eleven deposits in Scotland. They only came fifth or worse in fourteen constituencies. 

If this had been Alba or the SSP (or Solidarity or Rise or any of the other offshoots) who got a result like this it would be a big Scottish political story. As noted, they basically didn’t campaign in Scotland and looking through their he results to check how many deposits they lost I honestly hadn’t heard of any of their candidates. In terms of Scottish organisation, there appears to be a shell website listed for Reform in Scotland but it doesn’t have any details really.

Interestingly, it has a contact name for them and an address- 15 Forth Street in Glasgow. Had a look on Google Maps and found this -

https://maps.app.goo.gl/mXhjFXpcr55Q55c96?g_st=iw

 

Their performance last week clearly puts them in a decent position to pick up a small number of seats in Holyrood. Was there a particular regional distribution of their results? They seemed to be in the 4%-9% range in most seats.

 

I think they’d benefit greatly from having an actual Scottish leader that has some popularity among the right wing. Maybe Duguid would be tempted after how the Tories treated him. 

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2 hours ago, The Black Flag said:

Highlands being one place Reform beat the Tories. I haven't looked yet to see here else this happened around the UK. A lot of 4th places around the for Reform.

Reform who barely tried in Scotland out-doing Alba. Better showing than the Salmond ego trip club even if the illegal crossings into the UK from France are unlikely to reach places like Bettyhill or Kinlochbervie, but you never know, all it takes is the wind to blow in the wrong direction.

The media's fascination with Farage and Reform reminds me of the football media all over Gretna FC in the 00's. I do kind of think of Reform as like Gretna or more recent times East Kilbride if Reform was a football club. Its like a circus.

I don't agree about the Tories, they always serve the wealthy and titled first, how they achieve winning elections on shifting policies right or left depending or driven by public opinion is of less importance as long as they win. During the election it looked like Labour took the majority of former Tory voters so Reform of less relevance than Labour on this. I don't think there is as much pressure on the Tories from Reform as made out. I think after the disasters of the last 10 years people had had enough and wanted change, both Labour and Reform benefited. Not surprised in the low turn out. This mirrored in Scotland on how badly the SNP performed. 

 

The fishing industry in a place like Kinlochbervie would be dead within minutes if Farage ever got a whiff of power. Anyone in the Highlands voting for an anti-immigration party needs to be sectioned..

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1 hour ago, Cheese said:

They got 167,000 votes on Thursday. The Greens won 8 seats in 2021 with 221,000.

Can you imagine how completely insane the eighth person on any Reform UK party list in Scotland would be? 

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1 hour ago, Cheese said:

They got 167,000 votes on Thursday. The Greens won 8 seats in 2021 with 221,000.


There's a very different dynamic at play with Holyrood voting though, not convinced they can count on that vote holding.

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2 hours ago, The Black Flag said:

Highlands being one place Reform beat the Tories. I haven't looked yet to see here else this happened around the UK. A lot of 4th places around the for Reform.

Reform who barely tried in Scotland out-doing Alba. Better showing than the Salmond ego trip club even if the illegal crossings into the UK from France are unlikely to reach places like Bettyhill or Kinlochbervie, but you never know, all it takes is the wind to blow in the wrong direction.

The media's fascination with Farage and Reform reminds me of the football media all over Gretna FC in the 00's. I do kind of think of Reform as like Gretna or more recent times East Kilbride if Reform was a football club. Its like a circus.

I don't agree about the Tories, they always serve the wealthy and titled first, how they achieve winning elections on shifting policies right or left depending or driven by public opinion is of less importance as long as they win. During the election it looked like Labour took the majority of former Tory voters so Reform of less relevance than Labour on this. I don't think there is as much pressure on the Tories from Reform as made out. I think after the disasters of the last 10 years people had had enough and wanted change, both Labour and Reform benefited. Not surprised in the low turn out. This mirrored in Scotland on how badly the SNP performed. 

I agree with a lot of what you say, Black Flag 🏴

The Tories do absolutely anything to win.  Elite boarding schools produce an abnormally high number of narcissists after all.

As a conservative-minded person, I still think a party like Reform is required, and only time will tell if they meaningfully change things.

They got far more votes in Scotland than I thought they would.

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24 minutes ago, ICTChris said:

Can you imagine how completely insane the eighth person on any Reform UK party list in Scotland would be? 

Probably be one of these guys tbf.

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24 minutes ago, craigkillie said:


There's a very different dynamic at play with Holyrood voting though, not convinced they can count on that vote holding.

I'm not so sure. If they can avoid a clownshoe campaign there's no reason why the vote won't collapse to an extent that they don't pick up seats.

Yeah, it's different for sure, but they will be an easy list vote for plenty of constituency Tory voters.

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Reform UK performance in Highland and North Pyramid regions

 

constituency - Reform UK candidate - count (share of vote) placing (if finished ahead of major party)

 

Orkney and Shetland - Robert Smith - 1,586 (7.7%) 4th (finished ahead of Con and Lab)

Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross - Sandra Skinner - 3,360 (7.3%) 4th (finished ahead of Con)

Na h-Eileanan an Iar  - Tony Ridden - 697 (5.2%) 4th (finished ahead of Con and Lib Dems)

Inverness, Skye and wester Ross - Dillan Hill 2,934 (6.1%) 4th (finished ahead of Con)

Moray west, Nairn and Strathspey - Steve Skerritt 3,490 (7.5%) 5th

Aberdeenshire North and Moray East - Jo Hart 5,562 (14.6%) 3rd (finished ahead of Lab and Lib Dem)

Gordon and Buchan - Kris Callandar 3,897 (8.9%) 5th

Aberdeen North - Kenneth Leggat 3,781 (9%) 4th (finished ahead of Lib Dem)

Aberdeen South - Michael Pearce 3,199 (6.9%) 4th (finished ahead of Lib Dem)

west Aberdeenshire and Kincardine - Brandon Innes 3,497 (7.1%) 5th

Angus and Perthshire Glens - Kenneth Morton 3,246 (6.9%) 4th (finished ahead of Lib Dem)

Arbroath and Broughty Ferry - Gwen wood 3,800 (8.6%) 4th (finished ahead of Lib Dem)

Dundee Central - Vicky McCann 2, 363 (6.1%) 4th (finished ahead of Con)

Perth and Kinross-shire - Helen McDade 2,970 (5.9%) 5th

Argyll, Bute and South Lochaber - Melanie Hurst 3,045 (6.8%) 5th

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Cheese said:

Yeah, it's different for sure, but they will be an easy list vote for plenty of constituency Tory voters.


That would be at the expense of Tory list seats if they did that though, depends how much those voters want a Reform candidate.

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11 hours ago, The DA said:

Apologies if this has been mentioned already (I'm not reading back through this cesspit) but Twitter suggests there might be a scandal brewing and that the election might need to be re-run.

It looks like a number of the Reform candidates might not exist and have been created purely to take votes away from the Tories.

This thread is interesting.

I do like a goo scandal. Hope it's true.

The real scandal is the media not pursuing the fake Labour Party - can they produce any evidence that they are a socialist party?

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2 minutes ago, tamthebam said:

There were other CGI images of Reform candidates but no-one noticed the difference

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The Daleks were the shittest super villains ever.  Could be thwarted with a set of stairs.

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