eindhovendee Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 1 hour ago, Spikethedee said: The midweek of 3rd April has no Champions League fixtures for a TV clash, and is over two weeks from now, so plenty time to organise things. Shouldn't be any kind of issue with that date. Unless there is the slightest of drizzles, in April, a month famous for its showers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orbix Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 The game in October that was postponed was during a red weather warning from the Met. Even with the most cynical (and accurate) opinion of the SPFL, totting up postponements would likely exclude that from the current total of 4, bringing this investigation in line with previous examples? Given the deliberate underinvestment and rule breaking, and for the good of the league and to ensure sporting integrity, hopefully the game is awarded by default and we take the 3-0 win into the international break. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girth Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 6 minutes ago, Orbix said: The game in October that was postponed was during a red weather warning from the Met. Even with the most cynical (and accurate) opinion of the SPFL, totting up postponements would likely exclude that from the current total of 4, bringing this investigation in line with previous examples? Given the deliberate underinvestment and rule breaking, and for the good of the league and to ensure sporting integrity, hopefully the game is awarded by default and we take the 3-0 win into the international break. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 4 hours ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: There should have been an investigation after the Aberdeen postponement. This has only happened because Rangers (and Sky) have whined about it. There's also some absolute nonsense and downright lies in that Rangers statement - no doubt to appease the tinfoil hat wearers in their support. Every Rangers fan then. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 37 minutes ago, Orbix said: The game in October that was postponed was during a red weather warning from the Met. Even with the most cynical (and accurate) opinion of the SPFL, totting up postponements would likely exclude that from the current total of 4, bringing this investigation in line with previous examples? Given the deliberate underinvestment and rule breaking, and for the good of the league and to ensure sporting integrity, hopefully the game is awarded by default and we take the 3-0 win into the international break. Perhaps you can explain what sporting advantage we have obtained that would necessitate a sporting-based sanction. Be specific. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orbix Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 16 minutes ago, Girth said: Ok, 2-0. But both goals are Tav’s so he gets back up the golden boot chart. Or Dessers for the laugh. Quote Pitch Condition H11 Each Club shall ensure that the field of play at its Registered Ground and at any other ground at which it is the Home Club for a League Match or Play-Off Match is:- H11.1 smooth and in good condition and repair; and H11.2 equipped with an efficient and effective drainage system so that it cannot become unplayable due to flooding. H12 The Board may, without prejudice to any sanction that might be imposed on a Club for failure to comply with Rule H11, require the Club concerned to take such steps within such time and on such conditions as the Board shall specify, if the Board is not satisfied that the Club concerned is complying or has complied in all respects with Rule H11. Quote J16 Upon determining that a breach of or failure to fulfil the Rules or Regulations has been established, the Board or, as the case may be, a Commission may:- J16.7 award an Official Match (with such deemed score as it thinks appropriate) to a Club; -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meeniedee Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 I hope the authorities investigate this with the same intensity that they investigated the last time the rangers came to town Game delayed due to team being late then game being further delayed due to rangers fans being typical rangers fans = nothing to see here let's move on 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu2910 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 (edited) Hard to believe there will be a punishment for this at this stage. Dens has historically had one of the best pitches in the country that has, for whatever reason, finally failed. Given that no work can be done during the season, it doesn’t really matter whether there have been 2 postponements or 10 and anything more than a warning would be extremely harsh. Obviously if the problem persists next season the conversation changes. The statement from rangers is also nonsense. No other games postponed - that’s probably something to do with them taking place before the rain. Rangers not notified early enough - the first inspection was announced on social media at about 8:45 and was likely communicated to rangers before that, how early would they like exactly? There were thousands of away fans already at the ground - they knew the game was in doubt 3 hours before kick off and couldn’t get in until 1 hour before, so why were they there so early? Besides, the club arranged a pitch inspection for nearly 3 hours before kick off. The fact the referees took more than an hour to determine the result isn’t the clubs fault. Edited March 19 by stu2910 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pens_Dark Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 (edited) 30 minutes ago, stu2910 said: Hard to believe there will be a punishment for this at this stage. Dens has historically had one of the best pitches in the country that has, for whatever reason, finally failed. Given that no work can be done during the season, it doesn’t really matter whether there have been 2 postponements or 10 and anything more than a warning would be extremely harsh. Obviously if the problem persists next season the conversation changes. The statement from rangers is also nonsense. No other games postponed - that’s probably something to do with them taking place before the rain. Rangers not notified early enough - the first inspection was announced on social media at about 8:45 and was likely communicated to rangers before that, how early would they like exactly? There were thousands of away fans already at the ground - they knew the game was in doubt 3 hours before kick off and couldn’t get in until 1 hour before, so why were they there so early? Besides, the club arranged a pitch inspection for nearly 3 hours before kick off. The fact the referees took more than an hour to determine the result isn’t the clubs fault. I don't understand why they make a local ref go to inspect the pitch who, almost every single time, defers the decision back to the match referee anyway? Why not just do the sensible thing and make the match official get there in plenty of time? Similar happened with the Aberdeen game that was postponed 45 minutes before the start... Edited March 19 by Pens_Dark 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 How many matches have Rangers fans had to "endure the horror" of postponement this season? Its not like postponements are (a) unique or (b) unique to them Fannies 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 12 minutes ago, Orbix said: Ok, 2-0. But both goals are Tav’s so he gets back up the golden boot chart. Or Dessers for the laugh. J16 is an exhaustive list of all sanctions available for any breach of the rules. Try again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewh Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 19 hours ago, Ludo*1 said: The SPFL are either corrupt as f**k and dance to the tune of the OF or they're incompetent as f**k and dance to the tune of the OF. About as shambolic as the state of our pitch. Couldn’t they be both corrupt AND incompetent? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orbix Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 39 minutes ago, The Master said: J16 is an exhaustive list of all sanctions available for any breach of the rules. Try again. I didn’t say otherwise? Dundee have broken a rule, the rule isn’t constrained in terms of sanction, that’s one of the sanctions? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peil Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 5 hours ago, Leith Green said: There is room for this match. The problem is that the most appropriate date coincides with some Champions League matches (on the tv). As we know, Sky have the rights to the Dundee v Sevco match so it cant be on tv at the same time as Champs League ones. I would have thought the simple solution is that the match could be played without live TV*, and perhaps Sky will have to schedule in another match, although that may not include one of Rangers or Celtic. It shouldnt be that tricky. *I appreciate that this may prove problematic to all the Rangers "fans" who dont actually go to the fitba. Genuinely unsure, but do the host club get a payment for a TV match, or is it on a flat fee? Is there a risk Dundee lose money if the match isn't on TV? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stressball Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 1 hour ago, Orbix said: Ok, 2-0. But both goals are Tav’s so he gets back up the golden boot chart. Or Dessers for the laugh. Oh. You’re actually serious. I genuinely thought you were taking the piss. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 2 hours ago, The Master said: Perhaps you can explain what sporting advantage we have obtained that would necessitate a sporting-based sanction. Be specific. What if someone scores the winner in the rearranged game that wasn't available last weekend? (tbh i think the investigation is a shambles, the SPFL can't and wont do nothing as it opens a massive can of worms that our league is ill equipped to deal with, plus the pitch is what it is, if the league is going to bend over to sky then it needs to suck up shit like this) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 9 minutes ago, Peil said: Genuinely unsure, but do the host club get a payment for a TV match, or is it on a flat fee? Is there a risk Dundee lose money if the match isn't on TV? Im sure there is a fee paid to host the match, so dundee would lose out However if theres a CL slot night with no early KO the game can be played at 6pm, im sure us vs St Johnstone one time was played then because of euro football 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molotov Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 9 minutes ago, Peil said: Genuinely unsure, but do the host club get a payment for a TV match, or is it on a flat fee? Is there a risk Dundee lose money if the match isn't on TV? I think for league games it used to be the hosting club was paid a flat fee but I think this is now pooled together and shared out based on league position. Cup games are different I believe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 1 hour ago, Pens_Dark said: I don't understand why they make a local ref go to inspect the pitch who, almost every single time, defers the decision back to the match referee anyway? Why not just do the sensible thing and make the match official get there in plenty of time? Similar happened with the Aberdeen game that was postponed 45 minutes before the start... Probably find the officials only have to work x amount of hours, anymore and they would get more money or something else typically SFA like. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orbix Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 26 minutes ago, stressball said: Oh. You’re actually serious. I genuinely thought you were taking the piss. Oh I’m absolutely taking the piss, I said Dessers would score 2? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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