lichtgilphead Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 Uh, Jedi, I never used (or implied) the word 'lies', so why put it in quotation marks? The source of my information was the article you cited in the Tory Scottish Daily Express, and a basic knowledge of Scottish MP's constituencies and geography. I never said it was lies, just pointed out a different interptrtation of the Tory largesse to Council areas with Tory MP's Do you disagree that 5 of the 7 Tory MP's benefited from money being shovelled directly into their local council areas? Do you disagree that the other 25 council areas got f*ck all? Using taxpayers money to help Tories is a pretty Tory policy, isn't it? As a proud socialist, why don't you object to this unequal distribution of wealth? Incidentally, your pathetic namecalling and inability to make any point apart from 'SNP baaaad', without providing any credible proof just makes me think that slinking away from the board and returning as Jedi3 after the election may be your best strategy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 21 minutes ago, Jedi2 said: Glad to see my favourite Internet troll dismussing yet another source as 'lies', and apparently I am now a Tory to boot, presumably unless exclusively citing the crayoning and coloring in of The Na TiOALl or www.snp.org (these are the only 'truth tellers' out there)...or maybe that noted truth teller Pete Murrell... Anyway...to more important matters on oil and gas and the revenues during either a Blair or Thatcher govt: Oil and gas revenues peaked in the early 2000s, hitting an all-time high (in cash terms) in 2008/09. But adjusting for inflation, revenues were much higher in the early 1980s, amassing – in today's prices – nearly £35 billion in 1984/85. This time the source is www.economicsobservatory.com (Gosh, not the Express) Did Labour try to set up a National Wealth fund for Scotland in the mid-80's (to answer the question)...No. However, they were a bit hamstrung in doing so by a large Tory majority at Westminster which enabled said Tories to do whatever they wanted. So Labour didn’t do anything when the Tories were in power but then carried on not doing anything when they came to power. That’s some argument. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JS_FFC Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 Tories bringing back national service (for some reason). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewDon Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 Sunak pledging to bring back national service for the woke youth. It will no doubt be a bit of a shock when they realise they can't Deliveroo or Uber their way through it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 National Service. There’s nothing like a well considered and thought out policy. And this is nothing like a well considered and thought out policy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 Terminal decline. A political class running out of ideas and running out of road. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 52 minutes ago, DrewDon said: Sunak pledging to bring back national service for the woke youth. It will no doubt be a bit of a shock when they realise they can't Deliveroo or Uber their way through it. That sound you can hear is the final nail getting battered into the Tory election coffin. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 (edited) Never a surer sign that a party isn't going to be in government than when they start talking about bringing back National Service. Are we starting with the auld c***s who got away with not doing it in 1963? Anything other would just be punishing the young and total hypocrisy, and I'm sure that isn't what this is about at all. Get the idle elderly marching round those parade grounds - it's what Captain Major Tom would've wanted! Edit: there's also the tagged-on addition of "or you can do some volunteer work in the community", which I'm guessing is their cunning wheeze for providing care for the elderly poor and other annoying social welfare programs without paying anyone for doing it. We'll be hearing more of this in the future, I fear. Edited May 25 by BFTD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi2 Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: So Labour didn’t do anything when the Tories were in power but then carried on not doing anything when they came to power. That’s some argument. Don't disagree that Labour could (and should) have taken the chance between around 2000-09 to build up a National Wealth Fund from oil proceeds. Obviously Thatcher as expected squandered that cash in the 80s on funding the S.East and N.East of England in particular. So could Labour have done better on that front? Absolutely. I am more than happy to acknowledge faults in Labour govts of the past and (hopefully) future btw Edited May 25 by Jedi2 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewDon Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 Me after getting called up for backdated national service in 2025: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNU_Linux Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 1 hour ago, DrewDon said: Sunak pledging to bring back national service for the woke youth. It will no doubt be a bit of a shock when they realise they can't Deliveroo or Uber their way through it. @Sergeant Wilson will sort them out 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Ferrino Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 Timeless. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewDon Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 Keir Starmer has volunteered for national service. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 How about compulsory euthanisation for boomers? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swordfishtrombone Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Theroadlesstravelled said: How about compulsory euthanisation for boomers? True headline is 'Vast majority of pensioners are bitter jaundiced c***s who envy the young and want to make their life miserable for a couple of years doing something that the vast majority of them managed to avoid' Edited May 26 by Swordfishtrombone Spelling 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 National Service is a great idea. We need more cannon fodder. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 6 hours ago, GNU_Linux said: @Sergeant Wilson will sort them out 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 22 minutes ago, Highlandmagar said: National Service is a great idea. We need more cannon fodder. I'd almost like it just to see them try and give exemptions to EPL footballers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 (edited) I wonder if the armed forces would want this? A year's National Service seems a,waste of time for them. They must prefer a longer service, to train a more professional outfit. And after a year? What do those 19 year oëds come out to? Personally, I am at the ready to serve my country in a new Dad's Army! Edited May 26 by Highlandmagar 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 7 hours ago, HTG said: That sound you can hear is the final nail getting battered into the Tory election coffin. Let’s hope so but there will lots of Tories who will love the idea, including many who might otherwise switch to Reform at this election. That particular group could be the difference between simple defeat and total annihilation in a few weeks. Hopefully the ‘policy’ will unravel under examination and be exposed for the desperate electioneering that it is but I think it could win Sunak more votes than it loses him. One thing he has risked by this announcement is a closer examination of the depletion of armed forces under the last 14 years of Tory rule, a fact that might not bother most of us but will be of annoyance to the little-Englander type. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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