The DA Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 16 hours ago, Fullerene said: Obviously the Earth reaching its furthest point from the Sun around this time (Aphelion) will adversely affect the vote for some parties. Is that why it's so cold today? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tamthebam Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 2 hours ago, Cheese said: Looking at that reminded me of the song "No Gods and Precious few heroes" "So farewell to the heather and the glen They cleared us off once and they'd do it all again For they still prefer sheep to thinking men Ah, but men who think like sheep are even better There's nothing much to choose between the old vain and the new They still don't give a damn for the likes of me and you Just mind you pay your rent to the factor when it's due And mind your bloody manners when you pay" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 Did anyone have Mhari Black blaming the rain on their excuse bingo card? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 As SNP members we have no excuse, been in government too long, mistakes and scandals happened, family with a small retail business in the central belt,also SNP, we're telling us weeks before of the Labour groundswell so we were not overly surprised. I'm sure a lot of labour votes were driven by the thought that Labour will revamp the Benefit/Social Security System which given the country's financial situation will not happen. Now for a rethink and reshape. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotiaNostra Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 8 hours ago, Michael W said: Did anyone have Mhari Black blaming the rain on their excuse bingo card? Its always raining what day would she have preferred 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Twelve Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 14 hours ago, Cheese said: If they're entitled then I really don't see the problem. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freedom Farter Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Truss blamed the Human Rights Act. (That's not a joke, clip is on BBC News). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotiaNostra Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 (edited) 1 hour ago, orfc said: Lack of money is one of the biggest reasons for the SNPs poor showing, without it they could hardly run a campaign at all History will show one of the most pivotal points in Scottish history was the Weirs' picking their lucky numbers in the summer of 2011. From that win they donated millions to the SNP which enabled them to run lavish campaigns which produced stonking election wins and almost won the referendum - at one point the Weirs' donations were the vast majority of SNP and Yes funds. When those donations turned into loans and then dried up altogether because they felt disillusioned with Nicky (pick your own reasons, I'm not derailing this post with mine), the SNP had to find money from other sources, but it wasn't enough - hence the 600k scandal that took down the Murrells and the lack of campaigning since as their election machine ran out of steam - which will get worse with the loss of 30-40 sets of short money from Westminster. It's not like Northern Ireland where it's all a bunch of parochial parties, here they have to fight offshoots of larger UK parties who can divert funds and project recognition into the fight. I don't think the SNP will get above 20 mps again, they haven't the brute financial clout any more to campaign to that level. If thats true and i dont know. Then with the finances as bad as they are allegdly now, then there wouldnt seem much hope for them unless someone else wins the lottery Edited July 5 by ScotiaNostra 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freedom Farter Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Jonathan Ashworth lost his seat in Leicester. He blamed WhatsApp and TikTok. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted July 7 Author Share Posted July 7 On 05/07/2024 at 10:37, orfc said: Lack of money is one of the biggest reasons for the SNPs poor showing, without it they could hardly run a campaign at all History will show one of the most pivotal points in Scottish history was the Weirs' picking their lucky numbers in the summer of 2011. From that win they donated millions to the SNP which enabled them to run lavish campaigns which produced stonking election wins and almost won the referendum - at one point the Weirs' donations were the vast majority of SNP and Yes funds. When those donations turned into loans and then dried up altogether because they felt disillusioned with Nicky (pick your own reasons, I'm not derailing this post with mine), the SNP had to find money from other sources, but it wasn't enough - hence the 600k scandal that took down the Murrells and the lack of campaigning since as their election machine ran out of steam - which will get worse with the loss of 30-40 sets of short money from Westminster. It's not like Northern Ireland where it's all a bunch of parochial parties, here they have to fight offshoots of larger UK parties who can divert funds and project recognition into the fight. I don't think the SNP will get above 20 mps again, they haven't the brute financial clout any more to campaign to that level. I had honestly never considered or thought of this and have no idea if it’s true or not but my seat was relatively close and I got at most two bits of election literature from the SNP during the entire campaign. I had assumed that it might have been down to my MP, Joanna Cherry, being unpopular with party activists but maybe it was the money. The SNP, even now, must have far more members and activists than any other party on Scotland though, surely? Have they all chucked it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 38 minutes ago, ICTChris said: The SNP, even now, must have far more members and activists than any other party on Scotland though, surely? Have they all chucked it? Standard minimum price for SNP membership is only £1 per month, far less than Labour (£5.71/month), Tories (£3.25/month) and Libdems (£1.25/month) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 2 hours ago, ICTChris said: I had honestly never considered or thought of this and have no idea if it’s true or not but my seat was relatively close and I got at most two bits of election literature from the SNP during the entire campaign. I had assumed that it might have been down to my MP, Joanna Cherry, being unpopular with party activists but maybe it was the money. The SNP, even now, must have far more members and activists than any other party on Scotland though, surely? Have they all chucked it? We're in the same constituency. To be fair, I got hardly any leaflets through the door and wouldn't have guessed an election was going on from what I saw around here. I think the only sign of life I saw from Labour was a leaflet through the door on the actual day of the election. The SNP might not have been spending money, but I didn't seem like anyone else was either. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarrbridgeSaintee Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 2 hours ago, lichtgilphead said: Standard minimum price for SNP membership is only £1 per month, far less than Labour (£5.71/month), Tories (£3.25/month) and Libdems (£1.25/month) Labour are a bit of a rip off to say the least! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oceanlineayr Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 2 hours ago, lichtgilphead said: Standard minimum price for SNP membership is only £1 per month, far less than Labour (£5.71/month), Tories (£3.25/month) and Libdems (£1.25/month) Labour having a higher minimum membership price than the Tories is certainly something I would never have considered. What an odd strategy by them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-Toon Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 6 hours ago, Oceanlineayr said: Labour having a higher minimum membership price than the Tories is certainly something I would never have considered. What an odd strategy by them. There's no excuse for that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Khaki Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 Labour were utterly skint no long back. The Branch Office lot were putting out specific appeals for funding just to be able to foot the deposits for standing candidates in the 2021 Holyrood election. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 (edited) On 02/07/2024 at 20:51, DeeTillEhDeh said: No-one will say it publicly but privately they'll say the electorate are stupid. And to be fair they'd probably be correct. I’ve said it before. An idiot/ ignorant persons vote is worth the exact same as a logical and educated persons. Thats why trump, boris, farage etc have managed to play a blinder even if they haven’t won this time doubling down on conspiracies, culture war pish and just generally pandering to the lowest common denominator makes so much sense from their point of view especially since in the past, many of those people were completely disengaged and didn’t vote at all. Rather than the old “ its the economy stupid” even more so when you can’t beat your opponent on reasoned policy Edited July 9 by effeffsee_the2nd 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakedee Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 2 hours ago, Sheas_cake said: Same here. We got two leaflets from the SNP candidate, one from Labour and one from the mental Independent guy, Dan Pena which appeared to be the leafletting equivalent of the Abe Simpson "old man yells at cloud meme". Same constituency. One leaflet from the SNP, four from Stephen Kerr (didn't say which party) and four from Pena. None from the rest. It must be selective targeting to specific area's. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 (edited) 20 minutes ago, jakedee said: Same constituency. One leaflet from the SNP, four from Stephen Kerr (didn't say which party) and four from Pena. None from the rest. It must be selective targeting to specific area's. I'm in the Dunfermline & Dollar constituency which had been help by the SNP and we got carpet-bombed by Labour as soon as the election was called. Leaflets, canvassers, irritating social media ads everywhere about the candidate who's basically a Councillor talking head but on the bright side at least he's not Tom Docherty or Cara Hilton. Labour spent a lot. And that was money the SNP just didn't have. Normally we get at least 2 leaflets and a letter. No canvassing and we got one letter which looked like it was sent out to known supporters and wasn't a blanket thing. Labour was also helped by a near non-existent presence from the Lib Dems and the Tories. Edited July 9 by AndyM 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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