What is the point of labour ?

[HTG]

Of course Braverman is calling for an end to it as she'll be in opposition - you wouldn't hear a peep from her if she was likely to be in govt for another 5 years. 

Dreadful look for Labour though and easily resolved by adding "at the moment" to the end of the sentence.

[Salt n Vinegar]

6 minutes ago, HTG said:

Of course Braverman is calling for an end to it as she'll be in opposition - you wouldn't hear a peep from her if she was likely to be in govt for another 5 years. 

Dreadful look for Labour though and easily resolved by adding "at the moment" to the end of the sentence.

Another thing that ought to make potential Labour voters in Scotland have a wee think.  If you are espousing policies to the right of "popular Tories" (that is to say, popular within the Tory party), the chances are that they are the wrong policies.

[KirkieRR]

Anyway, if they really are seven points ahead of the SNP we'll have to get used to Anas looking puzzled, as always, and wondering how that happened, and Jackie Smuggy Smugchops Baillie grinning like a smug dug with two smug tails.

Grim.

[Laid Back Maverick]

You’d have thought Labour would have learned their lesson after the last time they parachuted Melanie Ward into Fife https://www.fifetoday.co.uk/news/politics/election-2024-new-kirkcaldy-candidate-melanie-ward-comes-full-circle-with-labour-4626748

[Freedom Farter]

[Dan Steele]

When Streeting says Labour is the centre ground he really means they are now there to fill the right-wing void as the Tories move even further to the right.

Good to hear Sunak play the old "pride" in the UK card coupled with the fear and doom tropes so beloved of the Better Together campaign, though.

Between them there's more raw sewage being spouted than 'accidentally' went into Windermere. And the fruit and veg rotting at Border Control is too mushy to throw at either party. What a country.

[scottsdad]

Are YOU a little teapot?

[DeeTillEhDeh]

So have they actually made 6 pledges or is it 6 vague aspirations?

[Dan Steele]

9 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

So have they actually made 6 pledges or is it 6 vague aspirations?

Either way, he's leaving it late to backtrack on them before the election.

[Alan Twelve]

12 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

So have they actually made 6 pledges or is it 6 vague aspirations?

• Sticking to tough spending rules in order to deliver economic stability

• Setting up Great British Energy, a publicly owned clean power energy company

• Cutting NHS waiting lists by providing 40,000 more appointments each week - funded by tackling tax avoidance and non-dom loopholes.

• Launching a border security command to stop the gangs arranging small boat crossings

• Providing more neighbourhood police officers to reduce antisocial behaviour and introduced new penalties for offenders

• Recruiting 6,500 teachers, paid for through ending tax breaks for private schools.

 

It's difficult to argue against any of them except the first one, although it's depressing that there seems to be no need to ask where the funding for BORDER SECURTY COMMAND is coming from. I'm charitably assuming that BSC will be tasked with actually tackling people smugglers rather than sinking small boats in the channel or whatever.

[Suspect Device]

 

Is the border security command being set up in near Gretna and Berwick?

Fair enough.

[Granny Danger]

44 minutes ago, Dan Steele said:

Either way, he's leaving it late to backtrack on them before the election.

44 minutes ago, Alan Twelve said:

• Sticking to tough spending rules in order to deliver economic stability

• Setting up Great British Energy, a publicly owned clean power energy company

• Cutting NHS waiting lists by providing 40,000 more appointments each week - funded by tackling tax avoidance and non-dom loopholes.

• Launching a border security command to stop the gangs arranging small boat crossings

• Providing more neighbourhood police officers to reduce antisocial behaviour and introduced new penalties for offenders

• Recruiting 6,500 teachers, paid for through ending tax breaks for private schools.

 

It's difficult to argue against any of them except the first one, although it's depressing that there seems to be no need to ask where the funding for BORDER SECURTY COMMAND is coming from. I'm charitably assuming that BSC will be tasked with actually tackling people smugglers rather than sinking small boats in the channel or whatever.

This says it all.  “Vote for us and we’ll tinker at the edges, but don’t expect any real change because that would require some radical changes and we’re not really into that.”

[Crùbag]

1 hour ago, Alan Twelve said:

• Sticking to tough spending rules in order to deliver economic stability

• Setting up Great British Energy, a publicly owned clean power energy company

• Cutting NHS waiting lists by providing 40,000 more appointments each week - funded by tackling tax avoidance and non-dom loopholes.

• Launching a border security command to stop the gangs arranging small boat crossings

• Providing more neighbourhood police officers to reduce antisocial behaviour and introduced new penalties for offenders

• Recruiting 6,500 teachers, paid for through ending tax breaks for private schools.

 

It's difficult to argue against any of them except the first one, although it's depressing that there seems to be no need to ask where the funding for BORDER SECURTY COMMAND is coming from. I'm charitably assuming that BSC will be tasked with actually tackling people smugglers rather than sinking small boats in the channel or whatever.

In other words Austerity 2.0 and stick to Tory spending plans and regressive legislation like the Bedroom Tax etc.

[coprolite]

I absolutely love the branding on "Great British Energy" and the fact that they describe it without hitting any reactionary trigger words like "green", "environment" or "renewable".  

Must have been like till death do us part in the focus groups. 

Border Security Command sounds well hard too. The ww2 fantasist types will be aroused by that one. 

In summary :

- repeat Broonie's trick from 1997

- create two Nationalist propaganda vehicles. 

- Standard more NHS/Teachers/Bobbies on beat. 

 

 

An actual industrial policy around renewable energy would be an objective win, gammon branding aside. 

It's not enough to win me back. 

 

[Cheese]

[BFTD]

At least some figures are quoted, at least. Only half of it is Lib Dem style "we'll make things nicer" and "we want to make air smell better" stuff that they can't be held to as it doesn't actually promise anything.

The bar's on the floor, but it's better than nothing, I suppose.

[BFTD]

There are threads for SNP BAD, FFS.

This is the thread for celebrating the excellent announcements that your party's leader has just made...unless you're still having a nervous breakdown about how underwhelming it all is, of course.

[tamthebam]

4 hours ago, Suspect Device said:

 

Is the border security command being set up in near Gretna and Berwick?

Fair enough.

No, The BSC will start in Maryhill, go to Alloa, split and end up in Dumbarton 

[Cheese]

1 hour ago, Jedi2 said:

It's all okay though, as Emma Roddick now argues that 'Indy Shouldn't Mean the End of a Union with England'

https://www.pressreader.com/uk/the-national-scotland/20240515/281586655698529

Speaking of 'tinkering at the edges', now we need a 'co-operation' union with England...isn't that sort of called Devolution?

Still., when you have Murray Foote, former architect of the 'Vow' as Chief Exec, don't suppose its a surprise to see an SNP figure watering Indy down to an ongoing (but 'better' co-operative Devolution agreement (sorry 'Indy/Union')) with England. And the point of voting for an SNP which propose that is...?

Wrong thread m9

[DA Baracus]

18 hours ago, scottsdad said:

Are YOU a little teapot?

Probably has hired some nonsense consultants who have said standing like that makes him more relatable or some bullshit.

It's like when the Conservatives went through that phase of standing legs apart and slightly squatting.