DeeTillEhDeh Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 Never let it be said that you didn't cover every remotely possible eventuality. What's your next amazing prediction? Celtic, Rangers or maybe Aberdeen to win the league?Northern Rock shares to soar. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 20 hours ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said: He’s right! Leonard is useless and needs to be replaced by a competent Labour MSP like, err... mmm... aaahh. Carry on Dick, you’re doing a grand job. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 Can’t work out what’s going on with all the psychos obsessing over Corbyn’s wife and an oatcake? Even the centrist conspiracy theories are pathetically small time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 29 minutes ago, NotThePars said: Can’t work out what’s going on with all the psychos obsessing over Corbyn’s wife and an oatcake? Even the centrist conspiracy theories are pathetically small time. Laura Alvarez has been quite outspoken recently backing her husband so the Murdoch stooges obviously decided it was time to take her down. I can remember on the election coverage the BBC pundits were all in agreement he should basically leave public life so it probably irks them that he continues to be a very good and popular MP. Compare him to the likes of David Milliband, Cameron or Brown who all hid away after their defeats. Corbyn is an incredibly strong person. He's looking very ripped for a 71 year old which probably doesn't go down with the right wing alchy journos as they shit blood every day. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 11 minutes ago, Detournement said: Laura Alvarez has been quite outspoken recently backing her husband so the Murdoch stooges obviously decided it was time to take her down. I can remember on the election coverage the BBC pundits were all in agreement he should basically leave public life so it probably irks them that he continues to be a very good and popular MP. Compare him to the likes of David Milliband, Cameron or Brown who all hid away after their defeats. Corbyn is an incredibly strong person. He's looking very ripped for a 71 year old which probably doesn't go down with the right wing alchy journos as they shit blood every day. I'm sure I saw people claiming he didn't visit flood victims either despite the multiple images and film showing him doing so. Maybe they've progressed to Q level deepfake conspiracies. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Detournement said: Laura Alvarez has been quite outspoken recently backing her husband so the Murdoch stooges obviously decided it was time to take her down. I can remember on the election coverage the BBC pundits were all in agreement he should basically leave public life so it probably irks them that he continues to be a very good and popular MP. Compare him to the likes of David Milliband, Cameron or Brown who all hid away after their defeats. Corbyn is an incredibly strong person. He's looking very ripped for a 71 year old which probably doesn't go down with the right wing alchy journos as they shit blood every day. Reminds me of Hench Jez from the tory election leaflets. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 2 hours ago, NotThePars said: Can’t work out what’s going on with all the psychos obsessing over Corbyn’s wife and an oatcake? Even the centrist conspiracy theories are pathetically small time. Labourlist are covering it with the reverence it deserves. Didn't notice an oatcake though. https://labourlist.org/2020/08/5-labour-stories-you-mightve-missed-over-the-weekend/?amp 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 My head canon is Jez is so ripped because the jewdas lads taught him krav maga purely for trolling purposes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Khaki Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 Probably gets that physique from lifting 20kg tubs of protein supplement 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 'Humiliating' leaked Labour memo has party branded 'Morris Minor' of politics https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/18672778.humiliating-leaked-labour-memo-party-branded-morris-minor-politics/?ref=twtrec Confidential documents prepared ahead of the 2019 General Election advised the party should target seats in England and Wales rather than attempt to win back seats from the SNP. one variable – proportion of Catholic residents by constituency (%) – was included for Scotland for the purpose of helping to distinguish better between Labour and SNP supporters. Wat? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, Baxter Parp said: 'Humiliating' leaked Labour memo has party branded 'Morris Minor' of politics https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/18672778.humiliating-leaked-labour-memo-party-branded-morris-minor-politics/?ref=twtrec Confidential documents prepared ahead of the 2019 General Election advised the party should target seats in England and Wales rather than attempt to win back seats from the SNP. one variable – proportion of Catholic residents by constituency (%) – was included for Scotland for the purpose of helping to distinguish better between Labour and SNP supporters. Wat? Quote LABOUR felt targetting Scottish seats was "not efficient" as the party is "not regarded as a serious rival" according to a leaked memo. They have more self-awareness than I gave them credit for. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 Ulsterisation baby. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 10 hours ago, Gordon EF said: They have more self-awareness than I gave them credit for. Humiliating scenes that you love to see published in official documents, right there. I can understand why in their pea-brained war committee that they thought Catholicism would be a potential in-road: Scottish voting was sectarian to a great extent for much of the 20th Century. The highly popular Unionist party of the post-war period was devoted to, err, the Irish Union and so captured the allegiance of the staunch working-class alongside the more standard Tory farmers, toffs and bourgeois scum vote until the 1970s. The resulting Catholic attachment to Labour remained in place for another generation (much in the same way as the RC Church persisted longer than the moribund Kirk as a serious influence in society) but sloughed off by about the time of the SNP's first Holyrood win in 2007. But while there is still a residual strain of Labourism in heavily Catholic minority constituencies - Inverclyde chief among them - there aren't any current policies that could activate this as a bloc identity vote. Despite James Kelly's laughable attempts to weaponise the Offensive Behaviour at Football Act, a majority of Catholics (and a significant majority of genuinely practicing ones) are of course women who on the whole are really not interested in rolling back anti-sectarian laws that protect their minority group in society just to get the party songs back at a Celtic game. And the kicker is that an estimated 58% of Catholics voted Yes in 2014, which is more even than those with no religion at all (also Yes), never mind the remaining Protestant rump who needless to say voted No: http://www.openhousescotland.co.uk/catholics-and-the-referendum/ So fashioning yourselves as a British flag waving, uber-Unionist party while waving a few token rosary beads around is really not the most coherent strategy in the world to win back the Catholic vote. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 As someone from a Catholic family I’ve been led to believe by Follow Follow that the SNP will personally deliver the reins to Rome so why I would vote Labour 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 (edited) I'm having flashbacks to Standard Grade Modern Studies - Catholics vote Labour, Proddies vote Tory. My advice to the Labour Party - a good start would be hiring a strategist who's passed Higher Modern Studies. Edited August 25, 2020 by Gordon EF 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 13 minutes ago, Gordon EF said: I'm having flashbacks to Standard Grade Modern Studies - Catholics vote Labour, Proddies vote Tory. My advice to the Labour Party - a good start would be hiring a strategist who's passed Higher Modern Studies. The favoured line from unionists back then was "Home rule is Rome rule". They have adapted that a little and will now be found screaming "It's not really independence if you are ruled by Brussels". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ivo den Bieman Posted August 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 25, 2020 The Labour Party in Scotland is a tragic mess. Richard Leonard is the equivalent of the youth team's cone man who unexpectedly has become first team manager and despite a run of heavy defeats, the club has no money and no attraction for anyone better to come in. The fans are calling for his head and the board know he's shite but no one else wants the job. The guy always looks permanently startled and seems to be three steps behind everyone else : almost cringingly out of his depth. At present they're little more than a battle re-enactment society, stuck in how Scotland was thirty years ago and alternating between rage and tears, sometimes both, that it is no longer the 1980s or 1990s. Until Labour process how fundamentally Scotland has changed they are doomed to irrelevance. Lots of evidence from twitter as well in the last few months that the cutting edge of enthusiastic youngsters who joined the party because of Corbyn, leaving in droves now that centrist Kier has been brought in to pacify things, and continue beating up Boris in a half hour TV spectacle, that few bother watching anymore. Watching a Labour leader in London making a statement "blocking" a second independence referendum would have been enraging a decade ago; now it produces little more than an Alan Partridge shrug. Starmer can say what he likes. He has no more play or profile up here than the leader of Gloucestershire County Council. "Scottish" Labour have made gruesome blunder after gruesome blunder since losing control of the parliament in 2007, and I reckon are one or two more terrible strategic errors away from folding altogether. The bigoted knuckle-dragging unionist rump can bugger off to the Tories whom they are clearly more than happy with, whereas the more intelligent people left amongst the membership have the possibility to found a new independence-minded social democratic party that may actually get some traction in the wake of an independence vote. Then again, such a party would be trying to claim ground that the SNP has dominated for twenty years now. Will be a tough task in the first few years. With all this said, we're talking about a membership of around 5,000...it barely matters what they do with themselves now. Ideologically rudderless, girning for the sake of girning, no idea how to oppose as a means of getting back into power, no clue as to how to enthuse the existing membership let alone attract new people, no idea how to stop the drift towards independence and post-independence political re-set. A shambles and a laughing stock that deserves the oblivion that is assuredly coming in Scotland. 31 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 The independence thing is funny as well because even the soft left of the party up here are aware it’s a suicidal policy. I know one of the sacrificial lambs for Glasgow who’s a true believer in the party and is aware the SEC decision has essentially decimated his remote chance of unseating the SNP incumbent because our ward is a strong indy constituency. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 Thinking back to everyone insisting the path back to power runs through Scotland as well as the collapse of the Red Wall, and smiling serenely 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 Independence for Labour is like Remain. You can say 70% of their voters are in favour of it but as difficult as this is for certain people to comprehend 30% is still a significant proportion of your voters that can't just be tossed away. To paraphrase a moron the SNP need a strongish Labour. The single worst political thing that could happen in Scotland is the entire unionist vote coalescing around the Tories and the Lib Dems. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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