Freedom Farter Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Steele Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 When Streeting says Labour is the centre ground he really means they are now there to fill the right-wing void as the Tories move even further to the right. Good to hear Sunak play the old "pride" in the UK card coupled with the fear and doom tropes so beloved of the Better Together campaign, though. Between them there's more raw sewage being spouted than 'accidentally' went into Windermere. And the fruit and veg rotting at Border Control is too mushy to throw at either party. What a country. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 Are YOU a little teapot? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 So have they actually made 6 pledges or is it 6 vague aspirations? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Steele Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 9 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: So have they actually made 6 pledges or is it 6 vague aspirations? Either way, he's leaving it late to backtrack on them before the election. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Twelve Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 12 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: So have they actually made 6 pledges or is it 6 vague aspirations? Sticking to tough spending rules in order to deliver economic stability Setting up Great British Energy, a publicly owned clean power energy company Cutting NHS waiting lists by providing 40,000 more appointments each week - funded by tackling tax avoidance and non-dom loopholes. Launching a border security command to stop the gangs arranging small boat crossings Providing more neighbourhood police officers to reduce antisocial behaviour and introduced new penalties for offenders Recruiting 6,500 teachers, paid for through ending tax breaks for private schools. It's difficult to argue against any of them except the first one, although it's depressing that there seems to be no need to ask where the funding for BORDER SECURTY COMMAND is coming from. I'm charitably assuming that BSC will be tasked with actually tackling people smugglers rather than sinking small boats in the channel or whatever. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 Is the border security command being set up in near Gretna and Berwick? Fair enough. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 44 minutes ago, Dan Steele said: Either way, he's leaving it late to backtrack on them before the election. 44 minutes ago, Alan Twelve said: Sticking to tough spending rules in order to deliver economic stability Setting up Great British Energy, a publicly owned clean power energy company Cutting NHS waiting lists by providing 40,000 more appointments each week - funded by tackling tax avoidance and non-dom loopholes. Launching a border security command to stop the gangs arranging small boat crossings Providing more neighbourhood police officers to reduce antisocial behaviour and introduced new penalties for offenders Recruiting 6,500 teachers, paid for through ending tax breaks for private schools. It's difficult to argue against any of them except the first one, although it's depressing that there seems to be no need to ask where the funding for BORDER SECURTY COMMAND is coming from. I'm charitably assuming that BSC will be tasked with actually tackling people smugglers rather than sinking small boats in the channel or whatever. This says it all. “Vote for us and we’ll tinker at the edges, but don’t expect any real change because that would require some radical changes and we’re not really into that.” 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 1 hour ago, Alan Twelve said: Sticking to tough spending rules in order to deliver economic stability Setting up Great British Energy, a publicly owned clean power energy company Cutting NHS waiting lists by providing 40,000 more appointments each week - funded by tackling tax avoidance and non-dom loopholes. Launching a border security command to stop the gangs arranging small boat crossings Providing more neighbourhood police officers to reduce antisocial behaviour and introduced new penalties for offenders Recruiting 6,500 teachers, paid for through ending tax breaks for private schools. It's difficult to argue against any of them except the first one, although it's depressing that there seems to be no need to ask where the funding for BORDER SECURTY COMMAND is coming from. I'm charitably assuming that BSC will be tasked with actually tackling people smugglers rather than sinking small boats in the channel or whatever. In other words Austerity 2.0 and stick to Tory spending plans and regressive legislation like the Bedroom Tax etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 I absolutely love the branding on "Great British Energy" and the fact that they describe it without hitting any reactionary trigger words like "green", "environment" or "renewable". Must have been like till death do us part in the focus groups. Border Security Command sounds well hard too. The ww2 fantasist types will be aroused by that one. In summary : - repeat Broonie's trick from 1997 - create two Nationalist propaganda vehicles. - Standard more NHS/Teachers/Bobbies on beat. An actual industrial policy around renewable energy would be an objective win, gammon branding aside. It's not enough to win me back. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BFTD Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 At least some figures are quoted, at least. Only half of it is Lib Dem style "we'll make things nicer" and "we want to make air smell better" stuff that they can't be held to as it doesn't actually promise anything. The bar's on the floor, but it's better than nothing, I suppose. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 There are threads for SNP BAD, FFS. This is the thread for celebrating the excellent announcements that your party's leader has just made...unless you're still having a nervous breakdown about how underwhelming it all is, of course. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 4 hours ago, Suspect Device said: Is the border security command being set up in near Gretna and Berwick? Fair enough. No, The BSC will start in Maryhill, go to Alloa, split and end up in Dumbarton 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 1 hour ago, Jedi2 said: It's all okay though, as Emma Roddick now argues that 'Indy Shouldn't Mean the End of a Union with England' https://www.pressreader.com/uk/the-national-scotland/20240515/281586655698529 Speaking of 'tinkering at the edges', now we need a 'co-operation' union with England...isn't that sort of called Devolution? Still., when you have Murray Foote, former architect of the 'Vow' as Chief Exec, don't suppose its a surprise to see an SNP figure watering Indy down to an ongoing (but 'better' co-operative Devolution agreement (sorry 'Indy/Union')) with England. And the point of voting for an SNP which propose that is...? Wrong thread m9 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 18 hours ago, scottsdad said: Are YOU a little teapot? Probably has hired some nonsense consultants who have said standing like that makes him more relatable or some bullshit. It's like when the Conservatives went through that phase of standing legs apart and slightly squatting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 Pandering to the 'small boats' crowd (who are all morons) is no shock. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soapy FFC Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 13 minutes ago, DA Baracus said: Probably has hired some nonsense consultants who have said standing like that makes him more relatable or some bullshit. It's like when the Conservatives went through that phase of standing legs apart and slightly squatting. It makes me chuckle how 'relatable' always involves always wearing a suit and tie, or if being casual, suit trousers and a shirt without a tie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 29 minutes ago, DA Baracus said: Probably has hired some nonsense consultants who have said standing like that makes him more relatable or some bullshit. It's like when the Conservatives went through that phase of standing legs apart and slightly squatting. Big Theresa with massive "'mon then!" energy. George Osbourne patiently awaiting his daily kick in the balls from the prefect he's been fagging for. Sajid Javid about to break into his Elvis impression. Dave Cameron...eh, I think that's just him TBH. Spoiler 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 11 hours ago, BFTD said: At least some figures are quoted, at least. Only half of it is Lib Dem style "we'll make things nicer" and "we want to make air smell better" stuff that they can't be held to as it doesn't actually promise anything. The bar's on the floor, but it's better than nothing, I suppose. Not really. “I know you haven’t eaten in two days so here’s half a Mars Bar”. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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