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What is the point of labour ?


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5 hours ago, Zern said:

I wonder why too. Watching Starmer shit on everything that Labour used to represent, in addition to embracing Brexit and British Nationalism is a most repellent combination. They don't have policies for Scotland; they don't have a coherent environmental policy either. Its just empty gestures and tweaking round the edges with no significant change.

Fixed that for you. I think if they have any policies left it's just to ape whatever the latest leader in the Daily Heil says. Just waiting for him to change the name of the party to something along the lines of the "New Conservative Party". He's copying everything else from them anyway.

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5 minutes ago, logie skid boys said:

The thought Scotland going back to a branch office for the Labour party is depressing as f**k... 

But  a  year half   is long time in politics and i can see a Starmer collapse coming big time . He already looks like a man that is ready to explode .

He can't collapse. The media wont allow their neoliberal select to collapse. Otherwise he already would have for a multitude of reasons that the media have already conveniently overlooked over the past 3 years.

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Corbyn was a threat.

Starmer has de-comissioned Corbyn and purged the party of any left-wing elements.

He will be rewarded.

This neo-labour will be like the latter half of Blair/Brown's tenure, with all the corruption and none of the redeeming features.

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42 minutes ago, Zern said:

Corbyn was a threat.

Starmer has de-comissioned Corbyn and purged the party of any left-wing elements.

He will be rewarded.

This neo-labour will be like the latter half of Blair/Brown's tenure, with all the corruption and none of the redeeming features.

Aye your right its all pointing that way..

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On 07/07/2023 at 13:48, Granny Danger said:

Some folk have short memories.  Some folk simply don’t pay attention to politics.  Some folk simply go with the perceived flow.  All in all it’s pretty depressing.  More so given that the people in Scotland have an option in the SNP that those south of the border don’t.

All that said, it’s not too long ago that the membership of the SNP were only a few thousand votes short of electing a right wing bigot as their leader.  Not a great state of affairs.

 

I'm seriously considering Plaid at the next election. 

It's between them and the Greens which might mean no choice if they buddy up again. 

I think this means i need a chunky cardigan with leather elbows. 

The disaffected in England will probably split between whatever (even more than Labtories) batshit mental xenophobes are on the go and the "Lib Dems". 

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Just now, scottsdad said:

This is all very 1997.

This is going to be nothing like 1997. Blair finished off Thatchers job of selling off nearly every remaining public asset. So unless Starmer is on course to flog off the NHS and make us the lapdogs of America's next war in the middle east (most likely Iran), they'll be no blood money flowing into the UK coffers.

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5 minutes ago, StellarHibee said:

This is going to be nothing like 1997. Blair finished off Thatchers job of selling off nearly every remaining public asset. So unless Starmer is on course to flog off the NHS and make us the lapdogs of America's next war in the middle east (most likely Iran), they'll be no blood money flowing into the UK coffers.

That's quite a take. 

I meant the whole fiscal-discipline-to-win-votes thing. 

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22 minutes ago, scottsdad said:

I meant the whole fiscal-discipline-to-win-votes thing. 

Even Blair wasn't this extreme and he actually put forward solid policy proposals and commitments. Starmer's Labour is basically just "we won't do anything considered left wing". There's no actual policy commitments to anything, just promises that he won't upset any ill informed morons who were worried that Corbyn was going to deliver communism and claim ownership over their houses.

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20 minutes ago, StellarHibee said:

Even Blair wasn't this extreme and he actually put forward solid policy proposals and commitments. Starmer's Labour is basically just "we won't do anything considered left wing". There's no actual policy commitments to anything, just promises that he won't upset any ill informed morons who were worried that Corbyn was going to deliver communism and claim ownership over their houses.

Blair promised to stick to Tory spending limits for 2 years. That was pretty extreme. 

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5 minutes ago, doulikefish said:

Starmer "the 2 child cap is inhuman"

Starmer this morning "yeah we are keeping that "

I saw Starter's interview on the LK programme this morning.

He was about as convincing as a very unconvincing thing.  LK should bring out a range of T-shirts with "that's not the question I asked!" on them.

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