dirty dingus Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 (edited) 26 minutes ago, MazzyStar said: What is the point of the mods? To stop greasers from taking over every cafe on Brighton seafront. Edited July 13 by dirty dingus 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewDon Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 The space between 'Labour' and the question mark on the old thread title did annoy me a bit, to be honest. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freedom Farter Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 (edited) The first half hour of this video is a talk by a Ukrainian political economist, "Who needs the state anyway?". Even somebody whose society is currently deep in tragedy is still keen to point out universal lessons. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zdf6AViJSNk&t=1614s Quote Authoritarianism and schizo-fascism can be interpreted as Russia’s failure to build a functioning capitalist state…how feasible is it to build such a state if countries with countless resources such as Russia fail. Or UK failed to regulate its polluting water companies. Or United States failed to provide adequate healthcare access to a large percentage of its price-excluded population. If the biggest economies in the world fail to build functioning capitalist states, why do we continue to pursue those modes of states? She doesn't view Russia as some extra-terrestrial, inexplicable phenomenon but rather as a different point on the same spectrum as USA and UK. The two poles to that spectrum being failing state and functioning state. Quote The erosion of social security combined with the emboldening of capital at the expense of labour and nature, and the state’s inability to serve as the constitution’s guarantor of rights and freedoms, are what largely conditioned the Revolution of Dignity. The Maidan revolution was a response to Ukrainians having the shitest living standards on their continent and such little collective control over their society due to the weakness of their state. Quote The state is a very important institution. We're frequently told that it isn't but it is. Social classes and modes of extraction of value from humans and nature are organised in present day systems trans-nationally. This means that they function through and in circumvention of the institution of the state and that is so by design; through state created extra-jurisdictional such as offshore and special economic zones where extraction of capital and surface value can happen outside the purview of the state. Opposing the above is a type of nationalism I'd personally like SNP to think more about. Quote In some thirty years, they (a research group) haven't found one enterprise that functioned better in private hands than it functioned under public hands. It's always more expensive. You lose control, accountability and efficacy. Quote This concrete state failure is now being interpreted, paradoxically, by Ukrainian politicians as a reason to further dismantle the state including in its ability to oversee the functioning of capital, which is precisely what created the problems in the first place. Instead of shrinking the state, I'd argue that what needs to happen...is that the purview and remit of the state needs to be expanded. The second quote there is what has happened in Ukraine since 1991 and should be obviously recognisable as the Tory aim for UK. Labour are now the government and we'll need to hope they take the same view as that last sentence. Edited July 14 by Freedom Farter 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 1 hour ago, Freedom Farter said: The first half hour of this video is a talk by a Ukrainian political economist, "Who needs the state anyway?". Even somebody whose society is currently deep in tragedy is still keen to point out universal lessons. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zdf6AViJSNk&t=1614s She doesn't view Russia as some extra-terrestrial, inexplicable phenomenon but rather as a different point on the same spectrum as USA and UK. The two poles to that spectrum being failing state and functioning state. The Maidan revolution was a response to Ukrainians having the shitest living standards on their continent and such little collective control over their society due to the weakness of their state. Opposing the above is a type of nationalism I'd personally like SNP to think more about. The second quote there is what has happened in Ukraine since 1991 and should be obviously recognisable as the Tory aim for UK. Labour are now the government and we'll need to hope they take the same view as that last sentence. The objective of private sector house builders is to make a profit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Freedom Farter Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 ICC is headquartered in Netherlands and its prosecutor is a Brit who was born in Edinburgh. It couldn't be a more UK-friendly institution. Among the many crimes overseen by the two Israeli men being sought for prosecution, Netanyahu and Gallant, was the murder of three British aid workers, all former UK military servicemen. There is overwhelming UK public consent for the ICC arrest warrants to be acceded to. Yet still, our government unilaterally resists. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheese Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 On 23/02/2024 at 10:23, Cheese said: Why not just make being a politician a protected characteristic, or make it illegal to shout at anyone who earns over 60 grand a year ? Fair play, they're gonna do it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 On 13/07/2024 at 17:52, Fullerene said: Whereas Slade thought he was crap and went for Noddy Holder instead. I'm with Slade here. As is Walsall Gallery. Whose lift uses Plant's nasal whine? Nobody's. That's whose. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 59 minutes ago, Cheese said: Fair play, they're gonna do it. Seems pretty reasonable to investigate violence and threats of violence against candidates, tbf. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 22 hours ago, Cheese said: Private jet as well 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 Shite new thread title @Homer Thompson 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Thompson Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 1 hour ago, scottsdad said: Shite new thread title @Homer Thompson Nonsense, it's quality word play. Well, it is now I've fixed the typo! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheese Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 3 hours ago, Bully Wee Villa said: Seems pretty reasonable to investigate violence and threats of violence against candidates, tbf. This seems like a job for plod, rather than a spurious think tank of people who have both an interesting view of what 'democracy is, and what 'political violence' is and indeed, what individuals and groups deserve sympathy when said 'political violence' is carried out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 On 14/07/2024 at 22:28, Cheese said: At least skull cracking Falangist fan Nandy would be happy with the score. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 Welsh FM resigns. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 When I read the BBC report I thought there had been another camper van type scandal, but it was because a £200,000 campaign donation not a £200,000 camping donation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewDon Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 Who's a bad Prif Weinidog? Yes, you are! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheese Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 Prif Weinidog is Dutch levels of nonsense language. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Stewart Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 16 hours ago, scottsdad said: Shite new thread title @Homer Thompson It doesn't even make sense. Why would you have a beer at the back of a furniture shop? His name's not "Kia Starmer" and no one says "I-kear". IT DOESN'T EVEN RHYME FFS!!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 @Homer Thompson absolutely stupid title. Anyway. Raynor showing herself to be totally gutless. Many ways to respond to Vance’s stupid comment and she chose the worst, most obsequious one possible. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn07e2ep20no She added that she "looked forward" to meeting him and Mr Trump if they won the US election in November. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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