peasy23 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 8 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said: Lynsey Sharp always had an excuse. Laura Muir gets preferential treatment, it's not fair running against Caster Semenya, she thought "Big Jock Knew" was a positive reference to Jock Wallace... She also always conveniently forgot she got selected for London 2012 based on achieving the B-standard, meaning GB&NI could only select one athlete instead of three. As a result, 3 athletes who all achieved the A-standard were not selected. 4 if you include the injured Jenny Meadows, but Sharp had beaten them all at the Olympic trial. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 Big respect for Turkish shooter Yusuf Dikec, who rolled up yesterday with no ear protectors or special glasses, and helped his team to a silver medal with one hand in his pocket. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 7 minutes ago, peasy23 said: Big respect for Turkish shooter Yusuf Dikec, who rolled up yesterday with no ear protectors or special glasses, and helped his team to a silver medal with one hand in his pocket. Someone needs to photoshop that so he's shooting the gun sideways 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajwffc Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 3 hours ago, Bully Wee Villa said: Apparently Dan Evans turned down defending his title at Washington Open, which is the biggest thing he's ever won, to take part in the Olympics so... 1. Fair play to him for that 2. It's a shame they arrange big tournaments like that during the Olympics, IMO. He is going to drop 110 places in the world rankings from what I seen mentioned on the BBC 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sparky88 Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 9 hours ago, WullieBroonIsGod said: The language used by her Italian opponent didn't help. "Preserving my life". The media hopped on it and then social media exploded with arseholes like Rowling Lassie knew she was going to lose and saw euros in her eyes from subsequent media appearances. Her opponent has lost to women before. It's a non story. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHF-23 Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 54 minutes ago, sparky88 said: Lassie knew she was going to lose I saw a video which seems to show she has previous for taking a coming loss pretty badly, doing a pretty obvious fake rolling of the ankle. I have what would probably be considered some pretty non woke takes on transgender women in sport, or at least top level sport, but it's depressing it's being brought into this case. Like Semenya previously, there is literally nothing this woman has done to give herself any sort of advantage and it's just really sad for her imo, to be essentially bullied and publicly called a man must have been news to her. There's a fair argument to be made that there should be some sort of consideration of people who are intersex or have some sort of DOSD, but the Olympics have implemented such a scheme and no one can really point to much other than the word of a disgraced boxing governing body to say that it's a bad one. The fighters included who were previously excluded have nothing in their record to suggest they are incomparable with the rest of the field, and it was very funny to see Steve Bunce have to be the voice of reason and essentially say she's not really a particularly hard puncher (and to his credit one of the few commentators to acknowledge she is being harmed by all this going on). Contrast that with the nauseatingly paternalistic Sean Ingle and others, who seem to think that womens' sport should be for nice little girls who try really really hard and anyone outside of that is cheating. I don't really want to get into the anti-trans weirdos getting in on this issue, but surely Khelif is what they would describe as a woman. Otherwise they're surely creating a secret third category (which apparently is very insidious) which would somewhat undermine their view of sex as strictly, 100% binary. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eez-eh Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 What is the point in the speed walking? Every single one of them at it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 1 hour ago, GHF-23 said: I saw a video which seems to show she has previous for taking a coming loss pretty badly, doing a pretty obvious fake rolling of the ankle. I have what would probably be considered some pretty non woke takes on transgender women in sport, or at least top level sport, but it's depressing it's being brought into this case. Like Semenya previously, there is literally nothing this woman has done to give herself any sort of advantage and it's just really sad for her imo, to be essentially bullied and publicly called a man must have been news to her. There's a fair argument to be made that there should be some sort of consideration of people who are intersex or have some sort of DOSD, but the Olympics have implemented such a scheme and no one can really point to much other than the word of a disgraced boxing governing body to say that it's a bad one. The fighters included who were previously excluded have nothing in their record to suggest they are incomparable with the rest of the field, and it was very funny to see Steve Bunce have to be the voice of reason and essentially say she's not really a particularly hard puncher (and to his credit one of the few commentators to acknowledge she is being harmed by all this going on). Contrast that with the nauseatingly paternalistic Sean Ingle and others, who seem to think that womens' sport should be for nice little girls who try really really hard and anyone outside of that is cheating. I don't really want to get into the anti-trans weirdos getting in on this issue, but surely Khelif is what they would describe as a woman. Otherwise they're surely creating a secret third category (which apparently is very insidious) which would somewhat undermine their view of sex as strictly, 100% binary. Talking about it through the night at work it's astonishing how many folk believe everything they read on X. One massive difference between Semenya and Khelif is that Semenya was beating everyone for fun, Khelif has lost 9 of 51 fights including an Irish lass beating her in a world final, folk seem to think she has just appeared at these games, but it's not even her first Olympics never mind all the other competitions she has fought in. I saw the same clip of the Italian lass but can't find it now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Brightside Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 I see Nicola Adams and Martina Navratilova have jumped on the terf bandwagon. Utterly disgusting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 (edited) Rowling is getting ripped a new one because she took off the tweet claiming Khelif was born a man - now changed it to "shouldn't have a biological advantage". It was pointed out to her thaf most sportsmen have biological advantages, from the lung capacity Phelps and Indurain to the height of Shaq and Jordan. The woman is just showing what an evil c**t she is. Edited August 2 by DeeTillEhDeh 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpetmonster Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 1 hour ago, Mr. Brightside said: I see Nicola Adams and Martina Navratilova have jumped on the terf bandwagon. Utterly disgusting. They’ve both been on it for ages. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpetmonster Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 13 hours ago, andyg83 said: I don't get the hate. She just very protective of womens rights. Not my cup of tea but I understand her point of view as a woman. Given being LGBTQ+ is illegal in Algeria, there’s a very real chance she’s put a woman in legal and physical jeopardy by ‘standing up for her rights’. f**k all the way off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 13 hours ago, Mark Connolly said: Lynsey Sharp always had an excuse. Laura Muir gets preferential treatment, it's not fair running against Caster Semenya, she thought "Big Jock Knew" was a positive reference to Jock Wallace... She also always conveniently forgot she got selected for London 2012 based on achieving the B-standard, meaning GB&NI could only select one athlete instead of three. As a result, 3 athletes who all achieved the A-standard were not selected. Jock Wallace knew as well? Huge if true. Any other Jocks in the know? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 13 hours ago, peasy23 said: Big respect for Turkish shooter Yusuf Dikec, who rolled up yesterday with no ear protectors or special glasses, and helped his team to a silver medal with one hand in his pocket. https://www.theguardian.com/sport/article/2024/aug/01/yusuf-dikec-turkish-shooter-paris-2024-olympics-t-shirt-glasses 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Nederlander Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 17 hours ago, Ginaro said: OP in this tweet is an Irish boxer And ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudia Gentile Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 Just a casual observance but is it just me or are the folk at the centre of these gender accusations usually black, Arabic or South Indian? I remember the shite the Williams sisters got (and probably still do). Just seems an excuse for prejudices (however unfounded) to rise up out of the swamp. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WullieBroonIsGod Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 Nicola Adams took some amount of misogynist shite, with a heavy dash of homophobia and racism back when she was competing. She should know much, much, better than to spout this 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richey Edwards Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 This olympics should have never took place anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHF-23 Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 It's the ferocity of it that gets me tbh. I can just about understand, if you were very uncharitable, describing trans women competing in women's sports as cheating. I can understand if you think people with DSD should not be able to compete in the female category. I don't necessarily agree with either of those POV but I can understand how you get there. But to see former athletes and journalists acting as if someone with female genitalia, raised as a girl and living as a woman who just happens to have a genetic difference which results in some male characteristics is a cheat, and worse just brazenly describing her as male/a man is so unnecessarily nasty. I've not been on twitter, or the internet in general, for a while. Last 24 hours of seeing this stuff makes me want to chuck my phone in the river. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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