Heart of Midlothian's Next Permanent Manager 24/25 Edition

[eez-eh]

Bring back the trackie-suit.

[Tony Wonder]

32 minutes ago, kingjoey said:

Exactly the same thing was said about the Aberdeen squad last season for the first four or five months.

And you took too long to act on the reason it was underperforming.

Warnock was a dreadful choice, but Leven got a tune out the same guys.

Our squad is essentially the same one we had last season that coasted 3rd and made 2 semis. There's been a bit turnover but we've got rid of squad guys like Halliday, Haring and Sibbick. Only person that left that was first choice was Cochrane and Penrice has been fine. 

[Insert Amusing Pseudonym]

37 minutes ago, kingjoey said:

Exactly the same thing was said about the Aberdeen squad last season for the first four or five months.

Was probably true though eh?  

[Otis Blue]

Haven't read all the posts here but is anyone mentioning Steve Clarke? Dunno what it'd cost but could be he thinks he's done what he can at the national squad level and might be hankering for the regular involvement at club level again. He was starting to make life difficult for the OF when at Killie ... might think he could do more with the bigger platform/resources at Tynecastle ...

[kingjoey]

13 minutes ago, Tony Wonder said:

And you took too long to act on the reason it was underperforming.

Warnock was a dreadful choice, but Leven got a tune out the same guys.

Our squad is essentially the same one we had last season that coasted 3rd and made 2 semis. There's been a bit turnover but we've got rid of squad guys like Halliday, Haring and Sibbick. Only person that left that was first choice was Cochrane and Penrice has been fine. 

You seem to be skirting around the issue that you have lost eight games in a row. You have one point from eighteen available and have scored a total of three goals in six league games. But it'll all be fine because these players that have contributed to that mess are better than that. 

[Central Belt Caley]

9 minutes ago, Otis Blue said:

Haven't read all the posts here but is anyone mentioning Steve Clarke? Dunno what it'd cost but could be he thinks he's done what he can at the national squad level and might be hankering for the regular involvement at club level again. He was starting to make life difficult for the OF when at Killie ... might think he could do more with the bigger platform/resources at Tynecastle ...

I could be wrong but I think he lives down south and quite likes the lifestyle of international management.

[Tony Wonder]

10 minutes ago, kingjoey said:

You seem to be skirting around the issue that you have lost eight games in a row. You have one point from eighteen available and have scored a total of three goals in six league games. But it'll all be fine because these players that have contributed to that mess are better than that. 

If you think Hearts fans are skirting about it, you're not paying much attention tbh.

But Naismith has effectively lost it this season. We have played different goalies, different full backs, different centre halves,  a back 3, back 4 and back 5. Every single week it was being changed. 

Guys would do well and drop out, others would do badly and stay in. For whatever reason it got away from him and he couldn't get a reaction. Shankland scores goals. Vargas got goals last season, Spittal was creative at Motherwell, yet we are getting nothing out of them, again because of Naismith.  Spittal played as a 6 most weeks he's been involved.  Vargas has been asked to play right through the middle but 30 yards away from everyone. Shankland has been a 10, bordering on a central midfielder.

You can think what you want looking in from the outside, Hearts fans who watch it every week are pretty unanimous in the fact it's down to managerial choices. Choices he wasn't making last season and that has badly dented confidence.  Both in the fans and players.

Edited 17 hours ago by Tony Wonder

[deadasdillinger]

John "Yogi" Hughes for me, please. 

[kingjoey]

35 minutes ago, Insert Amusing Pseudonym said:

Was probably true though eh?  

Of course it was true. 

[LondonHMFC]

4 hours ago, VincentGuerin said:

It would seem naive to avoid the thought that Bloom's crew will have significant input on this decision, so I'd imagine it'll be someone they've identified as working for their system, and that's likely to be someone none of us have considered.

A couple of names doing the rounds in East Sussex regarding the Hearts job. One of which is a coach who has unofficially been working with Brighton for the past few months. 

[kingjoey]

1 hour ago, LondonHMFC said:

A couple of names doing the rounds in East Sussex regarding the Hearts job. One of which is a coach who has unofficially been working with Brighton for the past few months. 

Any reason you're not saying their names?

[Girth]

3 hours ago, kingjoey said:

Any reason you're not saying their names?

It's Mark McGhee. 

[DiegoDiego]

5 hours ago, LondonHMFC said:

A couple of names doing the rounds in East Sussex regarding the Hearts job. One of which is a coach who has unofficially been working with Brighton for the past few months. 

Got Brighton and Wigan mixed up there for a second and thought you were after the boy who relegated Fort William.

[hk blues]

36 minutes ago, Girth said:

It's Mark McGhee. 

[VincentGuerin]

9 hours ago, kingjoey said:

Exactly the same thing was said about the Aberdeen squad last season for the first four or five months.

The situations are very different.

Aberdeen sold McCrorie and Ramadani and spent the summer in a fruitless pursuit of re-signing Scales. It was obvious to anyone looking that their starting eleven - never mind squad - was weaker than the season before (when it had only managed 57 points so wasn't all that good anyway).

That doesn't apply to Hearts. The squad from last season is essentially intact when it comes to the first 11. This squad has been relatively stable and consistent over the last few years. There's nothing about the make-up of the squad that explains this sudden drop-off.

Edited 8 hours ago by VincentGuerin

[Thenorthernlight]

5 hours ago, kingjoey said:

Any reason you're not saying their names?

Hmmmm…. For bites & attention perhaps? 

[mcginns]

Have Tony Bloom's number crunchers come back with a name yet?

[kingjoey]

20 minutes ago, Thenorthernlight said:

Hmmmm…. For bites & attention perhaps? 

Oops.

[Leith Green]

30 minutes ago, mcginns said:

Have Tony Bloom's number crunchers come back with a name yet?

It would be a bit of an eye opener if a guy who doesnt control the club, or have a board presence (afaik), was allowed to determine who the new manager of one of Scottish Footballs largest clubs.

 

[VincentGuerin]

21 minutes ago, Leith Green said:

It would be a bit of an eye opener if a guy who doesnt control the club, or have a board presence (afaik), was allowed to determine who the new manager of one of Scottish Footballs largest clubs.

 

I'm completely against Bloom becoming involved, but I think you're over-egging the pudding a bit here.

Aberdeen recently outsourced an entire review of their club, and clubs down south outsource managerial appointments all the time. The business I work for does it all the time too. Not really any different to that.

Edited 7 hours ago by VincentGuerin