MazzyStar Posted Saturday at 17:53 Share Posted Saturday at 17:53 1 minute ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: And the problem with that? Much that the EU is not ideal I'd prefer that to the xenophobic shite we've to put up with now. That’s because euroscepticism has been hijacked by the stupidest right wingers who don’t seem to realise that the purpose of the EU and its role in the context of global capitalism is aligned with their interests. He was also instrumental in the SNPs capitulation to its opposition to NATO. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted Saturday at 17:58 Share Posted Saturday at 17:58 (edited) 20 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: The Murrells don't live in Edinburgh. That wasn't who I was speaking about. But thanks for the information. Edited Saturday at 17:58 by strichener 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted Saturday at 18:01 Share Posted Saturday at 18:01 21 minutes ago, MazzyStar said: Maybe he never explicitly called himself a socialist but he definitely liked to talk about creating a “left wing” Scotland post independence despite nothing about his politics being left wing. He was also one of the main figures that caused most of the British “left” (and I use left in the vaguest way here) to abandon its eurosceptic position. Again, I think you're giving him way too much credit here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted Saturday at 18:02 Share Posted Saturday at 18:02 3 minutes ago, strichener said: That wasn't who I was speaking about. But thanks for the information. More that Alex had dirt on them (almost certainly) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted Saturday at 18:03 Share Posted Saturday at 18:03 29 minutes ago, strichener said: RIP Alex There will be a few in Edinburgh that will be relieved at the timing of this. Indeed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClydeTon Posted Saturday at 18:04 Share Posted Saturday at 18:04 9 minutes ago, Freedom Farter said: Scottish nationalism is not decolonial and the SNP were always suspicious of the left - Hugh MacDiarmid was kicked out the party in the early days for being a communist. Salmond in his younger years actually helped to moderate that anti-left bias among SNP leadership. Being suspicious of Communists (especially during the Cold War) and being suspicious of "the left" in general are two very different things. The main party the communists in Weimar Germany hated were... the Social Democrats. 9 minutes ago, Freedom Farter said: His prime policy position, separating Scotland from UK, would've weakened a major imperial force. We saw how UK backed Saudi's assault on Yemen and we see now the diplomatic and material support UK currently provides to Israel. Maybe if Salmond was around a century ago this would be true but absolutely not today. Britain's overseas operations don't rely on Scotland nor our resources, all we do is sail our handful of boats around with the yanks and hold on to some missiles for them - and let them use the (shrinking) collection of islands the UK owns. Britain is not a major force, nor an imperial one. Not since 1956. The UK Military is basically just the support act to the US Armed Forces - in every sense. Not just an ally like other NATO members, but utterly hopeless without the US. Andorra would probably have a solid chance at taking us on today. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted Saturday at 18:09 Share Posted Saturday at 18:09 Like him or dislike him, you can't deny that he was the best Scotland politician of his era. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy boo Posted Saturday at 18:19 Share Posted Saturday at 18:19 17 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: More that Alex had dirt on them (almost certainly) The truth will out hopefully. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted Saturday at 18:26 Share Posted Saturday at 18:26 Is anyone running a book on how long it is before someone gets punted for a comment on this thread? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted Saturday at 18:27 Share Posted Saturday at 18:27 57 minutes ago, Silvio Tattiescone said: Most influential politician since Thatcher 1.Blair 2.Farage 3.Salmond 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richey Edwards Posted Saturday at 18:27 Share Posted Saturday at 18:27 A great politician and orator. Took Scottish independence from a "lunatic fringe" idea to the political mainstream. Like him or hate him, you can't say he wasn't one of the most significant figures in Scottish political history. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted Saturday at 18:29 Share Posted Saturday at 18:29 2 minutes ago, sparky88 said: 1.Blair 2.Farage 3.Salmond What about Richard Leonard? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted Saturday at 18:31 Share Posted Saturday at 18:31 1 minute ago, scottsdad said: What about Richard Leonard? Dickie is still kicking about tbf to him. One of the better Slabbers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted Saturday at 18:32 Share Posted Saturday at 18:32 Just now, Wee-Bey said: Dickie is still kicking about tbf to him. One of the better Slabbers Chocolate watch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartsOfficialMoaner Posted Saturday at 18:38 Share Posted Saturday at 18:38 (edited) The he was young he looked a bit Jimmy Carr. Edited Saturday at 18:40 by HeartsOfficialMoaner . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted Saturday at 18:39 Share Posted Saturday at 18:39 We can't get a bank holiday out of this can we? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superwell87 Posted Saturday at 18:45 Share Posted Saturday at 18:45 RIP Alex. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted Saturday at 18:47 Share Posted Saturday at 18:47 16 minutes ago, scottsdad said: What about Richard Leonard? 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted Saturday at 18:47 Share Posted Saturday at 18:47 P&B heritage that gif. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted Saturday at 18:50 Share Posted Saturday at 18:50 (edited) 1 hour ago, Silvio Tattiescone said: Most influential politician since Thatcher You have to hope that Farage doesn't turn out to be a more accurate comparison. Edited Saturday at 18:58 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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