true_rover Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Surely most of us would be likely to shout something negative about Airdrie! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerton Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Best part of the run was that older couple who'd big speakers outside their house with music blaring about 7 miles in. Proclaimers playing as o passed. I got treated to Pink's "So What" as I passed, made me run a bit faster right enough!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BishyTON Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Here's a question. With optimum training, what's the best 5k time a normal Joe could hope to achieve? Obviously, under 13 minutes is a world record, under 15 minutes is pretty much unheard of - then you've got people like Bishyton under 18 minutes. Is that solely through committed training, or do you need to have innate ability as well? Or to put it another way, with all the training resources and regime, commitment and ideal conditions, what is the best time for 5k / 10k / half marathon that a normal chap could achieve? Good question. To which I don't think there is a real answer to be honest. It varies for individual to individual based on the level of ability that they have. Everyone has a maximum they can achieve and that can vary quite dramatically from person to person. Obviously I must have a small amount of talent as most people can't achieve the times I do. But I think the majority of my performance is down to training hard. Between running, core work and spin I have been average well over an hour a day recently and it shows in the performances. That is hard training as well, not easy running. I actually think one of the most important facets is how quickly you recover from your harder runs as that dictates how hard you can actually train. Having a good core really helps with that in my experience. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArabGaz Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 I think with an endurance sport like running the mental side is a huge factor in performance as well. There are times when it's going to hurt but you'll just have to find a way to keep your legs moving and power on through. Looking for a wee bit of advice on trainers. Anybody use Saucony? I know they are very popular but i've always used Adidas (Supernova Sequence) so i'm slightly wary of changing brand. I generally buy through the Sports Shoes website and they have some cracking deals on but nothing on my trusty Adidas (or anywhere else online for that matter). Kind of trying to decide whether to change up or spend a bit extra and go with what I know. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marty_j Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 I think with an endurance sport like running the mental side is a huge factor in performance as well. There are times when it's going to hurt but you'll just have to find a way to keep your legs moving and power on through. Looking for a wee bit of advice on trainers. Anybody use Saucony? I know they are very popular but i've always used Adidas (Supernova Sequence) so i'm slightly wary of changing brand. I generally buy through the Sports Shoes website and they have some cracking deals on but nothing on my trusty Adidas (or anywhere else online for that matter). Kind of trying to decide whether to change up or spend a bit extra and go with what I know. Totally agree mental factor is huge. I use Saucony guide 7 as I over pronate. Love them. Third pair now would recommend them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Here's a question. With optimum training, what's the best 5k time a normal Joe could hope to achieve? Obviously, under 13 minutes is a world record, under 15 minutes is pretty much unheard of - then you've got people like Bishyton under 18 minutes. Is that solely through committed training, or do you need to have innate ability as well? Or to put it another way, with all the training resources and regime, commitment and ideal conditions, what is the best time for 5k / 10k / half marathon that a normal chap could achieve? When I used to run pretty seriously, I started off as a 14-stone fella who could barely run 100m. Within a couple of years I was running 21-minute 5Ks and sub-45 10Ks. I've no doubt I could have kept going had life not gotten in the way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shahoorsir Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Best part of the run was that older couple who'd big speakers outside their house with music blaring about 7 miles in. Proclaimers playing as o passed.I did the marathon, I got the Vaccines, If you wanna when I went by. Quite enjoyed that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ark loyal Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 It was Mr. Brightside when I was going by. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socks Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Interesting question on what kind of time is possible - it's a discussion I was having at work last week as well. Everyone will have their own limit, but I'd say that most folk won't ever get close to that. Could I get below 18 for a 5k with good and consistent training? I'm pretty sure I could. Sub-17? Maybe, but it's a long way off. Sub-16? No chance. With a lot of work, I might be able to get near 80 mins for a half, but I'm never going to be under 70. My work colleague was trying to tell me that I was looking at it the wrong way and that I shouldn't be constrained by arbitrary limits - he has a point, but the times I say might be achievable are still miles away, so I hardly think I'm being negative by being aware of my probable limits. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardinal Richelieu Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Cheers for the responses folks. The reason I asked was that I was wondering what time could I realistically expect to achieve if I trained properly (i.e. interval training and the like), and didn't eat shite food or drink booze. I managed to do a 23 minute parkrun at the weekend which I'm quite chuffed about since I don't really train that hard or stick to a good diet. Given that I'm approaching 40 and of average height and build (arms and legs like pipe-cleaners but that's offset by a bit of a beer-baby), I'm wondering if I could ever crack the 20 minute mark - and if I did - how much effort it would take! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Some people are clearly built to be long distance runners, physically, and they have an inbuilt advantage. Then you have to have the dedication to training and mental strength to put in the hours and stick to the diets etc to achieve your very best. Then you have to be lucky in terms of injuries. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrison Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 I think you'd get pretty close in 6 - 12 months if you were dedicated to it, Cardinal, based on what you've just said. Hard one to judge, though. What you wouldn't want is for the goal to stop you actually enjoy your running; motivation and obsession are slightly different! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardinal Richelieu Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Cheers. You're exactly right. I'm sure if I went vegan and gave up beer, and ran up hills every morning - but none of those things are much fun! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Would a vegan diet by conducive to improving your running? Not sure you'd get the nutrients you require. Having said that David Haye is vegan and he has bulked up massively. Also, someone (can't remember who) rode the Tour de France on an almost vegan diet (he had a can of salmon every day as a cheat) so you can do it. Seems a helluva lot of work though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardinal Richelieu Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Would a vegan diet by conducive to improving your running? Not sure you'd get the nutrients you require. Having said that David Haye is vegan and he has bulked up massively. Also, someone (can't remember who) rode the Tour de France on an almost vegan diet (he had a can of salmon every day as a cheat) so you can do it. Seems a helluva lot of work though. I've got a book (cannae mind who it's by) by some chap who runs ultramarathons - sometimes more than 100 miles a day (f**k that btw!). He says that he couldn't do it without being vegan. Quite an interesting read, although every chapter is interspersed with vegan recipes - which isn't quite so riveting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrison Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 I've read that, but the name's slipped my mind too. The recipes sounded great mostly, but it came across as far too preachy for my liking. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ark loyal Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Scott Jurek? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardinal Richelieu Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Aye, I believe that was the fella. Fair play to him for doing those kinds of runs. He holds the world record for the furthest distance run in 24 hours - a whopping 165.7 miles. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrison Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Got round the marathon course in 3:39:51. I was unsure of my target time going into the race but thought I could have got round in under 3 and a half and was well inside that pace at the turn around 18 miles when I started to slow. By mile 21 I was really struggling and had to do the death shuffle for the final 5 miles as it really started to heat up. I probably went out too fast, but that's a lesson learnt. At least I have the benchmark now for the next one and I'm happy enough with the time. Looks like you had a pretty similar experience to my first, but you kept the wheels on for a few miles more than me! That's a solid effort. How are the legs? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reina Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 parkrun UK have posted the pic of my son and I on their Facebook page! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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