peasy23 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 England take the 3rd new ball and give it to Curran and Stokes. Think Root might be actively trying to get the captaincy taken off him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Tarmo Kink Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 This just seems like nothing is ever going to happen**I’m absolutely happy to jinx this 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
die hard doonhamer Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, peasy23 said: England take the 3rd new ball and give it to Curran and Stokes. Think Root might be actively trying to get the captaincy taken off him. He also waited way too long to bring himself and Leach on. All that is currently happening is time disappearing from the game. This really should finish up as a draw, but I expect England will find a way to lose it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 As much as some of England's decision making is baffling, I can't really understand the Kiwis approach either. England did bowl well this morning, but I thought NZ would have tried to up the run rate a bit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 As much as some of England's decision making is baffling, I can't really understand the Kiwis approach either. England did bowl well this morning, but I thought NZ would have tried to up the run rate a bit.Yeah. They’ve upped it with, I assume, the view of a declaration, but it’s going to be hard for both teams to bat again in the time they have left. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 NZ finally declared on 615-9 with Watling scoring 205. All England can do now is bat out a draw. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 NZ finally declared on 615-9 with Watling scoring 205. All England can do now is bat out a draw.That ain’t happening. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Moomintroll Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 There can be very few more annoying things in sport than the fat, pink, pished up arseholes that make up the self annointed 'Barmy Army'. What a feckin embarrassment they are. The real, original Barmy Army are good prople who do a lot of Charity work before, during & after tours to the Subcontinent & the Windies. Unfortunately over the years they have attracted a load of hangers on who just want to get drunk & act like knobends, substitute the word Barmy for Tartan & Subcontinent for Eastern Europe. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Moomintroll Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 England take the 3rd new ball and give it to Curran and Stokes. Think Root might be actively trying to get the captaincy taken off him.How did they manage to ruin Jofra Archer so quickly? I am close to the dummy spitting stage here but promote Ben Stokes to 3, give him the captaincy & make it clear he is the 6th bowling option. Whatever Chris Silverwood has said to Root, it is clearly not enough. Stokes is mentally strong enough to not care if he is in first drop whereas it scrambled Roots mind. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Tarmo Kink Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Yeah. They’ve upped it with, I assume, the view of a declaration, but it’s going to be hard for both teams to bat again in the time they have left. Will NZ need to bat again? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Will NZ need to bat again?Doesn’t look like it.I’m not convinced the coaching changes will make much difference. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 How did they manage to ruin Jofra Archer so quickly? I am close to the dummy spitting stage here but promote Ben Stokes to 3, give him the captaincy & make it clear he is the 6th bowling option. Whatever Chris Silverwood has said to Root, it is clearly not enough. Stokes is mentally strong enough to not care if he is in first drop whereas it scrambled Roots mind.I really can't get what they are doing with Archer. They wanted him in the setup because he had the X factor they were missing, a 95mph bowler. During the Ashes his speed dropped off notably compared to the world cup, and that has continued here. If he is bowling at 87/88 mph then he is not really any different from what they already had available, and certainly can't swing it like Broad, Anderson and even Curran/Woakes, although nobody can get it to move in these conditions anyway, so the extra pace could be the thing that makes the difference. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Went is archer not bowling fast then? Is it tactical or tiredness?He's fucking useless without it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Went is archer not bowling fast then? Is it tactical or tiredness?He's fucking useless without it.At the start of the Ashes he reached 96mph a couple of times, the one that rattled Steve Smith on the head was close to 93 mph, but his speed in this test (and the last couple of Ashes tests) has been consistently around 88 mph. Still quick, but definitely not as threatening as he was at the start of the summer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Moomintroll Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Went is archer not bowling fast then? Is it tactical or tiredness?He's fucking useless without it.They are ruining him quickly, someone needs to rattle Devon Malcolms lid & appoint him as Bowling Coach. Jofra will be skittling them left, right & centre if that happens. Bowl at the stumps, not at a patch of air 2 foot above the batters head. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Tarmo Kink Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 They are ruining him quickly, someone needs to rattle Devon Malcolms lid & appoint him as Bowling Coach. Jofra will be skittling them left, right & centre if that happens. Bowl at the stumps, not at a patch of air 2 foot above the batters head.The whole bouncer thing is becoming a bit obsessive. Yes well done Jofra you banged the best batsman in the world on the head because you couldn’t get him out, and your reward was England winning the 3rd Test in a drawn series at home. The whole Leach thing is becoming obsessive too, he’s more known for being a nightwatchman than taking wickets and I actually found it slightly funny when he was dismissed for a duck right at the end of the day, even if it wasn’t out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
die hard doonhamer Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Leach isn't a test level spinner. Joe Root is a more dangerous wicket taking option. Drop Leach, play Woakes, give Root and Denly the required overs of spin. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Tarmo Kink Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Leach isn't a test level spinner. Joe Root is a more dangerous wicket taking option. Drop Leach, play Woakes, give Root and Denly the required overs of spin. The sooner Mo is back, and at his best, the better. Edit - I don’t think Denly even bowled? Which is a bit strange considering there were 200 overs 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Can England last the day? Can they even last until lunch? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Can England last the day? Can they even last until lunch?I'm going for glorious failure. Three overs from the death. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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