The Cricket Thread

[Savage Henry]

1 hour ago, TheScarf said:

Pat Cummins has the same face as Jackson Irvine.

He lacks the dreamy hair, though.  

[Savage Henry]

4 minutes ago, peasy23 said:

Buttler whacks Hazelwood back over his head for consecutive 6s.

Buttler with the gloves batting at 7 please.  

[jaggyness]

If Buttler can get a score in this test I think it'll put Bairstow out the side for the winter tour. Get Sibley in at the top with Burns, Denly at 3, Root, Roy, Stokes and Buttler and then your 4 bowlers. Let's see how that works out.

[Savage Henry]

5 minutes ago, jaggyness said:

If Buttler can get a score in this test I think it'll put Bairstow out the side for the winter tour. Get Sibley in at the top with Burns, Denly at 3, Root, Roy, Stokes and Buttler and then your 4 bowlers. Let's see how that works out.

I'm okay with Bairstow playing as a batter only.  

[peasy23]

I'm okay with Bairstow playing as a batter only.  

Does his form justify it though? He is only averaging 20 this year.

[Savage Henry]

Just now, peasy23 said:

10 minutes ago, Savage Henry said:

I'm okay with Bairstow playing as a batter only.  

Does his form justify it though? He is only averaging 20 this year.

Not really, but if the alternative is Roy or Ballance....

[Sir Tarmo Kink]

Not really, but if the alternative is Roy or Ballance....

Maybe it will be Ollie Pope.

[jaggyness]

An interesting thought looking ahead is who the 4 bowlers should be for the winter tours. NZ is as close to English conditions as you'll get on tour so you'd imagine Anderson and Broad are shoe-ins. That leaves, potentially, Wood, Archer, Woakes, Overton, Curran, Ali and Leach fighting it out for 2 spots

[Fuctifano]

Is there any point in taking Woakes when he becomes a village player as soon as he gets through passport control? If Stone and Wood (both might be better named Glass) can stay fit, those two plus Archer & Broad are your options with Curran in there as well, as...

I also think Anderson should retire, would have been fine with this series if he'd stayed fit and he could probably still do a  lot of damage in NZ  but Test Championship be damned, England's only goal in the next 3 years is to win in Australia in 2021-22 and he'll be 39 by then. I actually think he might retire once this match is over despite what he's said in public til now.

edit: if I'm reading the ICC Future Tours thingy properly, the away series vs NZ isn't part of the WTC as teams only play 6 series: England's are this one then SA (A), SL (A), WI (H), PAK (H), IND (A) so there's not even that excuse.

Edited September 12, 2019 by Fuctifano

[Guest Moomintroll]

Is there any point in taking Woakes when he becomes a village player as soon as he gets through passport control? If Stone and Wood (both might be better named Glass) can stay fit, those two plus Archer & Broad are your options with Curran in there as well, as...
I also think Anderson should retire, would have been fine with this series if he'd stayed fit and he could probably still do a  lot of damage in NZ  but Test Championship be damned, England's only goal in the next 3 years is to win in Australia in 2021-22 and he'll be 39 by then. I actually think he might retire once this match is over despite what he's said in public til now.
edit: if I'm reading the ICC Future Tours thingy properly, the away series vs NZ isn't part of the WTC as teams only play 6 series: England's are this one then SA (A), SL (A), WI (H), PAK (H), IND (A) so there's not even that excuse.

I agree that Woakes does not travel well but NZ conditions will probably suit him, write him off for the Saffers & hope that the brothers Glass can break into a trot for once as they will do well on their pitches.

[Savage Henry]

1 hour ago, Tarmo Kink said:

 

Maybe it will be Ollie Pope.

 

 

One can but Pope.

[Arthur Orton]

4 hours ago, drs said:

What is the conversion rate pre and post being appointed captain?

For me I'd remove the captaincy from him because its clearly impacting his batting form and he's shit at being captain.

Since getting the captaincy he has had 23 knocks of fifty, he has converted just five of these into centuries  21% rate

Prior to captaincy 35  11 of which converted   -   31%       -      Overall record of 27% -  now have a look at the top 20 converters of all time.  Kane Williamason is way down in 70th with a rate of 40%  Sorry for the shit font

coring 2000 Runs with 50/100 Conversion Rate of 40% or Better
     Player    Country    Mat    Inns    NO    Runs    HS      100s    50s    Avg    C/Rate
1    Bradman, D G    Australia    52    80    10    6996    334    29    13    99.94    69.05
2    Headley, G A    West Indies    22    40    4    2190    270*    10    5    60.83    66.67
3    Dhawan, S*    India    34    58    1    2315    190    7    5    40.61    58.33
4    Ponsford, W H    Australia    29    48    4    2122    266    7    6    48.23    53.85
5    Ames, L E G    England    47    72    12    2434    149    8    7    40.57    53.33
6    Kohli, V*    India    79    135    8    6749    243    25    22    53.14    53.19
7    Walcott, C L    West Indies    44    74    7    3798    220    15    14    56.69    51.72
8    Azharuddin, M    India    99    147    9    6215    199    22    21    45.04    51.16
9    Clarke, M J    Australia    115    198    22    8643    329*    28    27    49.11    50.91
10    Hayden, M L    Australia    103    184    14    8625    380    30    29    50.74    50.85
11    Younis Khan    Pakistan    118    213    19    10099    313    34    33    52.06    50.75
12    Smith, S P D*    Australia    67    122    16    6870    239    26    26    64.81    50.00
13    Morris, A R    Australia    46    79    3    3533    206    12    12    46.49    50.00
14    Amiss, D L    England    50    88    10    3612    262*    11    11    46.31    50.00
15    Rowe, L G    West Indies    30    49    2    2047    302    7    7    43.55    50.00
16    Prince, A G    South Africa    66    104    16    3665    162*    11    11    41.65    50.00
17    Vaughan, M P    England    82    147    9    5719    197    18    18    41.44    50.00
18    Ijaz Ahmed    Pakistan    60    92    4    3315    211    12    12    37.67    50.00
19    Crowe, M D    New Zealand    77    131    11    5444    299    17    18    45.37    48.57
20    Atapattu, M S    Sri Lanka    90    156    15    5502    249    16    17    39.02    48.48

[Sir Tarmo Kink]

I just don’t think England have enough good Test batsmen. Even guys like Stokes, Bairstow and Buttler who we know are capable, are they really that capable at Test level? Look at the top 10 batting averages of Eng/Aus players.

Steve Smith - 64.81
Joe Root - 48.09
David Warner - 46.01
Travis Head - 42.70
Usman Khawaja - 40.66
Marnus Labuschagne - 38.53
Jonny Bairstow - 36.12
Ben Stokes - 35.86
Jos Buttler - 33.07
Tim Paine - 32.62

[Lichtie78]

Have slated Mitch Marsh plenty myself, but felt a bit sorry for him watching this interview.

 

 

 

 

 

Bowled well today, and if his batting stands up he’s got a real chance at the number 6 slot.

 

[Savage Henry]

Have slated Mitch Marsh plenty myself, but felt a bit sorry for him watching this interview.
 

 
 
 
 
Bowled well today, and if his batting stands up he’s got a real chance at the number 6 slot.
 

Another likeable Australian cricketer. This needs to stop.

[Sir Tarmo Kink]

Another likeable Australian cricketer. This needs to stop.

I’d say the current team is mainly fairly likeable. Excluding Warner, Bancroft, Smith (who I personally don’t mind) and Lyon.

[Benjamin_Nevis]

I don't think the Aussies will be too bothered at not getting England all out near the end. It certainly delays Warner's inevitable lbw to Broad until tomorrow morning. If they can get England out for 300 tops and Smith doesn't do anything daft I'd expect them to get north of 400.

[die hard doonhamer]

37 minutes ago, Day of the Lords said:

I don't think the Aussies will be too bothered at not getting England all out near the end. It certainly delays Warner's inevitable lbw to Broad until tomorrow morning. If they can get England out for 300 tops and Smith doesn't do anything daft I'd expect them to get north of 400.
 

On that deck I really wouldn't be surprised if Smith goes for Lara's 400 himself.

[Benjamin_Nevis]

Just now, die hard doonhamer said:

On that deck I really wouldn't be surprised if Smith goes for Lara's 400 himself.

Maybe he'll settle for 329. That'll give him 1000 runs in the series, having missed 3 innings, which is utterly bonkers. 

Surely he's got to get out cheaply at some point. 

[Sir Tarmo Kink]

Wickets picked up quickly in the morning with Buttler and Leach going. Five for Mitchell Marsh.

England out for 294.