H_B Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 So yes, I consider your leading question answered, and answered some time ago. Erm, but as I have showm your answer is utter bollocks. You'd have been better saying "orange, apples, gremlins" and it would have been as valid a response. You can either hotfoot it away, or you can tell me what an Independent Scotland is going to do to ensure people of Arbroath and Dumfries contribute exactly as much to the Scottish economy as people from Stirling and Edinburgh. If your answer is "they won't" then in what way will this be different from the people of the Scottish region contributing less than the people from the London region of the United Kingdom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 sometimes we can't always be self sufficient, however we should never be happy with dependence and should always make an effort to improve ourselves. Do you disagree with this? Erm, this already happens. There are millions spent trying to boost investment and create jobs in deprived areas throughout the UK. Who says people are happy that their region isn't the financial leader in the UK and aren't trying to increase prosperity? Are you happy that I pay more tax than you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Erm, but as I have showm your answer is utter bollocks.You'd have been better saying "orange, apples, gremlins" and it would have been as valid a response. You can either hotfoot it away, or you can tell me what an Independent Scotland is going to do to ensure people of Arbroath and Dumfries contribute exactly as much to the UK economy as people from Stirling and Edinburgh. If your answer is "they won't" then in what way will this be different from the people of the Scottish region contributing less than the people from the London region of the United Kingdom? See post 342. Do you disagree with my statement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Erm, this already happens. There are millions spent trying to boost investment and create jobs in deprived areas throughout the UK. Who says people are happy that their region isn't the financial leader in the UK and aren't trying to increase prosperity? Are you happy that I pay more tax than you? Well done! You have successfully arrived at the point myself and lzreid arrived at about four hours ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RTB Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Just like the union and its defenders. Interesting how none of the unionists have yet explained to me what this sense of Britishness that is to be reinstalled is. I am also interested to know the unionists views on what happens to Scotland within the Utopian union when the oil does run out considering it costs so much for England to keep us. (according to the unionists) Conscription to the forces? Clearances of people for llama farming? Hillside haggis shooting? Well!!! Umm, who has mentioned "Britishness"? IT's actually the opposite. It's lurid Nationalists who are trying to tell us we should have some sort of "comeradeship" with fish farmers from Arbroath because they happen to have been spawned in Scotland.You do know the UK hasn't always had oil revenue don't you? ..and that explains hmmmm nothing!!!! Answer the questions and stop trying to reverse what is being asked. I will wait for an explanation but i wont hold my breath too long!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Guybrush, Does it embarrass you that Arbroath will suckle from the Edinburgh teat if you get your wish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centralparker Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 No country has their economy evenly distributed across the land. But the whole point of a nation is that the tax revenue goes into a central pot and provides a certain level of services for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Guybrush,Does it embarrass you that Arbroath will suckle from the Edinburgh teat if you get your wish? Already answered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 No country has their economy evenly distributed across the land. But the whole point of a nation is that the tax revenue goes into a central pot and provides a certain level of services for everyone. Indeed. And the point is that Regional Development Funds exist to try and inject capital into deprived regions to try and improve the situation. This already happens. The UK Government spend millions doing this and do the European Union. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Already answered. Well, no. You said :- "Surely you can agree with me that this IS an example of suckling at the English teat. Surely that sort of talk embarrasses you" So you are unhappy with those who accept the Scottish region will contribute less to the UK than other regions as "this sort of talk embarrasses you" but you aren't embarrassed (though you wish it wasn't a fact) that the Arbroath region will contribute less to the Scottish economy than Edinburgh. You have yet to explain why this situation is any better than the status quo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Well, no. You said :-..... Already answered. Enjoying yourself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theentomologist Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Have you seen the utter swampy in line for the throne then? edit to add...here he is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz,_Duke_of_Bavaria ach, hes 70 odd. by the time anyone gets their arse into gear its this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophie,_Hered...f_Liechtenstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Indeed.And the point is that Regional Development Funds exist to try and inject capital into deprived regions to try and improve the situation. This already happens. The UK Government spend millions doing this and do the European Union. but are they??? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/7750728.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Already answered. Enjoying yourself? Not really, making you look like a fool is poor sport. It's like shooting into an empty goal playing 5 against 4 at football. You have to do it at times, but you take no satisfaction from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Not really, making you look like a fool is poor sport. It's like shooting into an empty goal playing 5 against 4 at football. You have to do it at times, but you take no satisfaction from it. I would question your view of who looks more foolish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 but are they???http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/7750728.stm Yes. The two are not related. Poverty is not relative to capital investment. There is a section of society who do not want to work and never will. You could open businesses galore in Glasgow, but you will never fill them with eager workers sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 I would question your view of who looks more foolish. It's quite obvious. Your argument is logically ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Yes. The two are not related. Poverty is not relative to capital investment. There is a section of society who do not want to work and never will. You could open businesses galore in Glasgow, but you will never fill them with eager workers sadly. totally agree,but wheres all this cash thats meant to be going in??? those figures are for the last 40 years,surely after that time you would have thought there might have been an improvement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 It's quite obvious. Your argument is logically ridiculous. Really. I am of the opinion that your pages of repetitive demands I answer a question that I answered some hours ago (and repeatedly helpfully referenced you to) seem a mite on the deranged, and dare I say it, foolish, side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Really. I am of the opinion that your pages of repetitive demands I answer a question that I answered some hours ago (and repeatedly helpfully referenced you to) seem a mite on the deranged, and dare I say it, foolish, side. Unfortunately it has been necessary to completely ridicule your anti-English rant. You still haven't told me the difference between Arbroath suckling off the Edinburgh teat and Scotland supposedly suckling from the UK or specifically South of England teat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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