MONKMAN Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Israel is a truly vile nation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefybake Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Leith Green said: Poorly worded by me but when Britain left and partition happened, many Palestinians lost their homes. It's not as if they accidently mislaid them. They were forced to leave. Edited October 17, 2023 by beefybake 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggy McJagface Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Middle Eastern leaders starting to pull out of meetings with Biden now. Looks like the situation might be spiralling unless the Americans decide to put Israel on a leash. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheese Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 A 'war crime' doesn't adequately explain that. The gates of hell are open. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 A lesson not to draw attention to things in the past by deleting bad takes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 16 minutes ago, Jaggy McJagface said: Middle Eastern leaders starting to pull out of meetings with Biden now. Looks like the situation might be spiralling unless the Americans decide to put Israel on a leash. I'm not sure Israel can be put on a leash tbh. Netanyahu and his cronies only have one move available to them. Which is to plough on regardless. After the colossal intelligence failure anything else will be seen as weakness for the strongman. It's compunded by the fact that Israel doesn't recognise the ICC either, much the same as Russia in that regard. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 France24 reporters have looked into a clip the Israeli Defence Force posted earlier and have concluded that the Israeli soldiers shoot 4 people who are unarmed and have surrendered in the clip. Bidens meeting tomorrow will have some agenda if they are going to try and get things back from the brink. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Israel blatantly committing the most appalling crime and then pretending it was the other side is straight out of the Putin playbook. If Hamas had access to missiles capable of that kind of damage, then they would have been launching them at Israel long before now. Hopefully Netanyahu finds himself up in The Hague one day, but that will never happen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Apparently Israel announced they attacked the hospital because there was Hamas people hiding in it, just before they deleted it and claimed it was Islamic Jihad with a faulty missile. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 31 minutes ago, Trogdor said: I'm not sure Israel can be put on a leash tbh. Netanyahu and his cronies only have one move available to them. Which is to plough on regardless. After the colossal intelligence failure anything else will be seen as weakness for the strongman. It's compunded by the fact that Israel doesn't recognise the ICC either, much the same as Russia in that regard. Would you like to buy a bridge? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 To just have one of those missiles and then to hit your own side is rotten luck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 20 minutes ago, itzdrk said: Would you like to buy a bridge? No, I've no money left after a visit from the wallet inspector. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 For the Israeli explanation to be credible you'd have to believe that an Islamic Jihad rocket was fired from southern Gaza with the intention of hitting Haifa, an awful long way, and accidentally dropped early and hit a Hamas arms cache on the roof of a major hospital in Gaza City. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 24 minutes ago, welshbairn said: For the Israeli explanation to be credible you'd have to believe that an Islamic Jihad rocket was fired from southern Gaza with the intention of hitting Haifa, an awful long way, and accidentally dropped early and hit a Hamas arms cache on the roof of a major hospital in Gaza City. I'm sure it will be good enough for most major news outlets 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Just now, Mark Connolly said: I'm sure it will be good enough for most major news outlets I'm quite surprised by how balanced the mainstream broadcasters in both the UK and US have attempted to be. I'd say the Palestinian and Israeli perspectives have been closer to equal in terms of time on air than ever before. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Ferrino Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, welshbairn said: I'm quite surprised by how balanced the mainstream broadcasters in both the UK and US have attempted to be. I'd say the Palestinian and Israeli perspectives have been closer to equal in terms of time on air than ever before. It's a tightrope though, given it's so big and so dangerous. It would be foolish for them to plant their feet in one camp or the other given the potential consequences. Going to start a campaign to get Lawrence Fox back on. Edited October 18, 2023 by Tony Ferrino 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freedom Farter Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 29 minutes ago, welshbairn said: I'm quite surprised by how balanced the mainstream broadcasters in both the UK and US have attempted to be. I'd say the Palestinian and Israeli perspectives have been closer to equal in terms of time on air than ever before. Media, at least the more serious outlets, have been much better than politicians' statements in UK and USA. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dunning1874 Posted October 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, Newbornbairn said: Reports and video suggesting this was one of the Hamas rockets that misfired. Incredible that Hamas can fire rockets at Israel for years, most of which are intercepted by the Iron Dome, with a rate of one death per 1000 rockets over a period of 20 years, and when they directly hit buildings generally blow out a window and take some brickwork away. Entirely coincidentally, when the IDF happen to be carpet bombing Gaza with JDAMs and have already explicitly told everyone in Gaza City they should evacuate because they are going to very deliberately drop bombs on the entirety of Gaza City, a hospital in Gaza City gets flattened by one explosion, which just happened to be the result of the most powerful rocket Hamas have ever possessed being misfired and landing directly on the roof. Curious! I guess Hamas must have left a weapons cache on the roof or something. Edited October 18, 2023 by Dunning1874 22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Granny Danger Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 6 hours ago, welshbairn said: I'm quite surprised by how balanced the mainstream broadcasters in both the UK and US have attempted to be. I'd say the Palestinian and Israeli perspectives have been closer to equal in terms of time on air than ever before. 1 minute ago, jagfox said: I also think that if the MSM were looking to be objective they would frame questions the way @Dunning1874 has in the post above. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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