Bairnardo Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 11 minutes ago, Boghead ranter said: It may be just a Sky News thing, but anyone interviewed, regardless of side, come across as an absolute ball of rage. There was an IDF spokesman yesterday and again this morning, who turned every answer into "THEY HAVE, AND WILL CONTINUE, TO ENCROACH AND BEHEAD OUR CHILDREN". Then this morning there was a female Palestinian journo who just shouted over and over Mark Austin with the point she wanted to make, not even listening to his question. This is never going to get fixed. I feel a bit like I'm living in an alternate Uinverse atm, where a wee radio channel in Central Scotland is playing interviews where a member of the public casually chats about the pros and cons of bombing civilian areas into oblivion, and instead of people going, hold on a minute mate, you are talking about a fucking war crime, large scale murder of innocent people, we instead get "aye well you've no walked a mile in his shoes". Genuinely quite incredible. I can have all the sympathy in the world for someone's plight if they have a family member in a hostage situation, but when that person essentially offers up that thousands upon thousands of completely innocent ought not to be blown to pieces until after his person is safe them im ok with calling that out. Grief doesn't give you a free pass to start calling for war crimes ffs 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 I'd genuinely be interested in listening to this interview. It's clearly had a profound effect on Bairnardo. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, Trogdor said: I'd genuinely be interested in listening to this interview. It's clearly had a profound effect on Bairnardo. Not profound at all. Ultimately we're just chatting shit whilst this carnage unfolds far away. But like I said, I just found it really weird to hear. Usual bullshit morning radio, and then up pops this guy, effectively discussing whether Israel should, or should not, commit a fucking horrific and barbaric war crime, and his reasons why. None of which were "because innocent people should t be bombed to death" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 29 minutes ago, Donathan said: I would prefer to see civilian casualties minimised but I recognise Israel's right to defend itself and to use force to get the hostages back. Do you recognise Israel’s right to oppress the Palestinian people for decades? Do you recognise Israel’s right to create an open prison for Palestinians where their lives are controlled and minimum services provided? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Do you recognise Israel’s right to oppress the Palestinian people for decades? Do you recognise Israel’s right to create an open prison for Palestinians where their lives are controlled and minimum services provided? No. I would of course prefer a peaceful two state solution. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 You have to be a fucking ghoul to in any way justify the actions Israel/Hamas are taking. People just going about their lives murdered for control over a small bit of the silly rock we live on. Pointless. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Donathan said: No. I would of course prefer a peaceful two state solution. Do you know we can all still see your posts in the other thread? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freedom Farter Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 There was a missile strike on cars of civilians evacuating northern Gaza yesterday. Financial Times have concluded it was done by Israel: https://archive.ph/0P2rA. That seems obvious but Israel blamed it on Hamas so this FT investigation has helped clarify things. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotgun Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 Al Jazeera reporting that Iran is telling Israel to immediately halt its “war crimes” against Gaza or it could face “a huge earthquake” of resistance. I suppose that's a start. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonytoons Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 3 hours ago, welshbairn said: But of the cities of these people, which the Lord thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth: But thou shalt utterly destroy them; namely, the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; as the Lord thy God hath commanded thee: Much prefer when God realised he was an arsehole and suddenly became all forgiving. Shame his followers didn't come to the same conclusion. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moomintroll Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 Hamas are scum, the current Israeli Government ( & many before and probably after them) are scum, the innocent majority Muslim Palestinians & Israeli majority Jews caught up in this shitshow are victims of both a Terrorist Organisation & a Fascist Goverment that acts like a Terrorist Organisation. Nevertheless the same few posters on here will blame it on the hook nosed jews because Media, Murica & Mbritain, those posters are also scum. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thane of Cawdor Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 Arron Ferster, a 38-year-old TV producer from Manchester, said: “My grandfather survived Auschwitz and in his testimony described babies being thrown and caught on bayonets by the SS, and that always struck me as unfathomable. But to know that a similar level of barbarism has taken place, and in of all places Israel – which was seen as a safe haven if, God forbid, we ever needed to get out of here – that brought home how strong Jew hate is in some places.” https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/14/we-feel-so-vulnerable-british-jews-reel-from-atrocities-in-israel Do people find this stuff credible? If true, it must represent some nadir of evil; if fabricated, it is beyond contemptible. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 3 hours ago, Donathan said: I would prefer to see civilian casualties minimised but I recognise Israel's right to defend itself and to use force to get the hostages back. Do you extend that to Hamas’ right to use force to get Palestinian prisoners, being held without trial, free? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 1 minute ago, oneteaminglasgow said: Do you extend that to Hamas’ right to use force to get Palestinian prisoners, being held without trial, free? No. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 Just now, Donathan said: No. Ok, so your position is the same as the other thread that Israel killing civilians is just one of those things, but Hamas doing it is an unacceptable evil? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, oneteaminglasgow said: Ok, so your position is the same as the other thread that Israel killing civilians is just one of those things, but Hamas doing it is an unacceptable evil? I would prefer to see a peaceful 2-state solution 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 7 minutes ago, Donathan said: I would prefer to see a peaceful 2-state solution So you keep saying. You also branded every Palestinian as antisemitic and claimed that’s the only reason for them opposing Israel, while Israel’s hand has been forced by the Palestinians not wanting to be forced to live in a prison and be ethnically cleansed, so forgive me for not believing you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MazzyStar Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 3 hours ago, Donathan said: No. I would of course prefer a peaceful two state solution. You’re a fucking cretin. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MazzyStar Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Moomintroll said: Hamas are scum, the current Israeli Government ( & many before and probably after them) are scum, the innocent majority Muslim Palestinians & Israeli majority Jews caught up in this shitshow are victims of both a Terrorist Organisation & a Fascist Goverment that acts like a Terrorist Organisation. Nevertheless the same few posters on here will blame it on the hook nosed jews because Media, Murica & Mbritain, those posters are also scum. Stick to your unhinged rants about “Corbyn loving scum infesting the NHS”. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 33 minutes ago, MazzyStar said: You’re a fucking cretin. For wanting a peaceful 2 state solution? Isn’t that what most people want. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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