welshbairn Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Apparently Israel announced they attacked the hospital because there was Hamas people hiding in it, just before they deleted it and claimed it was Islamic Jihad with a faulty missile. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 31 minutes ago, Trogdor said: I'm not sure Israel can be put on a leash tbh. Netanyahu and his cronies only have one move available to them. Which is to plough on regardless. After the colossal intelligence failure anything else will be seen as weakness for the strongman. It's compunded by the fact that Israel doesn't recognise the ICC either, much the same as Russia in that regard. Would you like to buy a bridge? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 To just have one of those missiles and then to hit your own side is rotten luck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 20 minutes ago, itzdrk said: Would you like to buy a bridge? No, I've no money left after a visit from the wallet inspector. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 For the Israeli explanation to be credible you'd have to believe that an Islamic Jihad rocket was fired from southern Gaza with the intention of hitting Haifa, an awful long way, and accidentally dropped early and hit a Hamas arms cache on the roof of a major hospital in Gaza City. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 24 minutes ago, welshbairn said: For the Israeli explanation to be credible you'd have to believe that an Islamic Jihad rocket was fired from southern Gaza with the intention of hitting Haifa, an awful long way, and accidentally dropped early and hit a Hamas arms cache on the roof of a major hospital in Gaza City. I'm sure it will be good enough for most major news outlets 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Just now, Mark Connolly said: I'm sure it will be good enough for most major news outlets I'm quite surprised by how balanced the mainstream broadcasters in both the UK and US have attempted to be. I'd say the Palestinian and Israeli perspectives have been closer to equal in terms of time on air than ever before. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Ferrino Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, welshbairn said: I'm quite surprised by how balanced the mainstream broadcasters in both the UK and US have attempted to be. I'd say the Palestinian and Israeli perspectives have been closer to equal in terms of time on air than ever before. It's a tightrope though, given it's so big and so dangerous. It would be foolish for them to plant their feet in one camp or the other given the potential consequences. Going to start a campaign to get Lawrence Fox back on. Edited October 18, 2023 by Tony Ferrino 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freedom Farter Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 29 minutes ago, welshbairn said: I'm quite surprised by how balanced the mainstream broadcasters in both the UK and US have attempted to be. I'd say the Palestinian and Israeli perspectives have been closer to equal in terms of time on air than ever before. Media, at least the more serious outlets, have been much better than politicians' statements in UK and USA. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dunning1874 Posted October 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, Newbornbairn said: Reports and video suggesting this was one of the Hamas rockets that misfired. Incredible that Hamas can fire rockets at Israel for years, most of which are intercepted by the Iron Dome, with a rate of one death per 1000 rockets over a period of 20 years, and when they directly hit buildings generally blow out a window and take some brickwork away. Entirely coincidentally, when the IDF happen to be carpet bombing Gaza with JDAMs and have already explicitly told everyone in Gaza City they should evacuate because they are going to very deliberately drop bombs on the entirety of Gaza City, a hospital in Gaza City gets flattened by one explosion, which just happened to be the result of the most powerful rocket Hamas have ever possessed being misfired and landing directly on the roof. Curious! I guess Hamas must have left a weapons cache on the roof or something. Edited October 18, 2023 by Dunning1874 22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 6 hours ago, welshbairn said: I'm quite surprised by how balanced the mainstream broadcasters in both the UK and US have attempted to be. I'd say the Palestinian and Israeli perspectives have been closer to equal in terms of time on air than ever before. 1 minute ago, jagfox said: I also think that if the MSM were looking to be objective they would frame questions the way @Dunning1874 has in the post above. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 The BBC breakfastcunts reporting “international condemnation of an explosion at a hospital” Why would there be condemnation at an “explosion” I wonder? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 35 minutes ago, jagfox said: Yeah, a UN resolution proposed by Russia was never going through. That should be a surprise to absolutely no-one. The hypocrisy is strong with that one given their exploits in Ukraine. The UN Security Council is a dysfunctional mess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 The Israeli permanent representative to the UN has said Hamas are no different from the Nazis and said it is ‘fully and solely’ responsible for the situation in Gaza. Meanwhile Israel’s Minister for National Security wasn’t allowed to serve in the IDF due to his extreme right wing views! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 I'm surprised some Arab nations haven't declared war on Israel yet tbh. My money's on Iran. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, Leith Green said: Israel say it was a Hamas rocket that went wrong and they would never target a hospital. Conveniently forgetting that Archbishop Justin Welby tweeted to the world that Israel hit the same hospital on Saturday (its run by the church). This was from before the hospital attack. Edited October 18, 2023 by RandomGuy. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 13 minutes ago, TheScarf said: I'm surprised some Arab nations haven't declared war on Israel yet tbh. My money's on Iran. That really would be an awful escalation. Israel's government strangely is falling in popularity with Israelis, the extreme government really only has international support so it feels if the US, UK, EU start to have a far more nuanced approach then the internal war could calm down, but that will require a grinding U-turn from Washington, London and Brussels. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 8 hours ago, welshbairn said: Apparently Israel announced they attacked the hospital because there was Hamas people hiding in it, just before they deleted it and claimed it was Islamic Jihad with a faulty missile. I bet they were dressed up as Doctors and Nurses. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 41 minutes ago, TheScarf said: I'm surprised some Arab nations haven't declared war on Israel yet tbh. My money's on Iran. Make your mind up 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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