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Clare is tall, athletic and technically good, and yet was still fairly useless because he doesn't have a position. Flitted in and out of games too much to play centre-mid and didn't score or set up enough when he plays on the wing or up front. His best form undoubtedly came as an attacking full-back under Stendel, but there was little evidence that he could actually defend, given that he was rarely in the actual right-back position and when he was he didn't look particularly convincing.
I wouldn't be surprised if he developed into a good player because he has a lot of the right attributes, but given he was likely on a decent wage, we can't really afford to gamble on that happening while we're playing in the Championship.
As for Washington, I quite liked him and felt he was our best performing striker in the last few games before lockdown. We didn't see the best of him last season and I'd have fancied him to do well for us this year, but having him, Boyce and Naismith is a bit of an expensive luxury for the Championship and Washington is the least likely of those to deliver goals.
That's Burns, Clare, Washington and probably Hickey away now. I'd also be surprised if Smith and Lee are here come the start of the season and I'd be delighted if we can get shot of Doyle, Zlámal, Damour, Uche And Wighton.
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Just now, welshbairn said:
I think he meant the maximum sanction could be out of proportion to the offence, but he accepted the rule, otherwise he wouldn't have sent it to arbitration.
I've read Lord Clark's opinion again and, although he makes reference to the severity of the penalties, I'm not 100% clear on that. The reference to the severity of the penalties is in parenthesis.
"On the advice of responsible counsel, Hearts and Partick Thistle brought these proceeding in court alleging unfair prejudice on that and several other grounds. In my opinion, questions may arise as to whether in that context a bar on raising legal proceedings without the permission of the Board of the SFA, subjecting a club to potentially extreme sanctions..., can be viewed as contrary to public policy and hence unlawful."
In any case, being contractually obliged to go to arbitration and being punished for not doing so initially are two different things.
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Just now, RandomGuy. said:
Surprised to hear that breaking a law you agreed to opens you up for a punishment you agreed to if you broke that law.
Incredible.
They haven't broken a law, it's an SFA rule, a rule which a judge happened to say is potentially unlawful last week.
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20 hours ago, raith1974 said:
Because Ann Budge only wanted reconstruction for a very short period, basically to save her club and then she wanted it back to 12-10-10-10. This would result in 3 teams being relegated in one season from the Championship with 4th bottom going into the playoffs. Potentially 4 teams relegated in one season. Why would you vote for that.
20 hours ago, welshbairn said:Good point. I hadn't thought about the effects down the leagues of going back to 12-10-10-10, although I thought she was talking about over 5 years, so it could have been staggered, or 14-10-10-10 continued with. No wonder the League 2 clubs were shitting themselves.
It isn't that good a point considering the proposal voted on was for permanent reconstruction, not temporary.
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Excellent signing and a complete no-brainer. Aside from being a massive improvement on our options for the last couple of seasons, I'm hoping he'll have a calming effect on the defence. They've been a constant bag of nerves with Pereira letting everything in and Zlamal doing mad shit behind them.
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8 minutes ago, Alert Mongoose said:
Is my memory playing tricks or has McClaren not previously applied for a few jobs in Scotland?
Yeah, he was linked to Hearts in 2017 but he ended up taking a job at Maccabi Tel Aviv and Levein hired himself instead. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40849646
Fair play if it's McClaren, a box office appointment with some superb ready-made smileys.
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28 minutes ago, Ludo*1 said:
Did that need a statement? No-one has a clue what the f**k she's on about other than the other clubs. Can Ann no use email?
Presumably they expect the letter to be leaked to the media at some point and they're trying to get in there first.
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Hearts not telling Stendel we'd hired his replacement is, unfortunately, completely unsurprising. Treating people like shit has been a feature of the club for the last few years and it's very probably a large part of the reason we're where we are now.
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13 minutes ago, Jackie Chiles said:
The rumours are that he advised Budge he was taking another job (Schalke according to the 'ITK' on Kickback) and so Budge moved for Neilson at that stage.
It did seem strange the announcement regarding Stendel only came today.
What is also strange, is us not taking at least a month to get a replacement in.
What?
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2 minutes ago, kingjoey said:
It was really nice of Hearts today to advise their previous manager that, the day after the announcement of their new manager, he is being replaced. What a quality club.
Still, I bet Neilson was delighted to find he was the new manager when he saw it on the website last night.
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24 minutes ago, Falcor Roar said:
Good point about McCann. I'd genuinely worry about getting out the division with him in charge. And there were rumours this week. We've been through enough recently.
Weir as SD and McCann as manager was the (horrifying) rumour. Seems as though the former might still be happening.
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1 hour ago, ArabFC said:
As I said above. Screw the lot of you.
Leave in didn’t suddenly become a bad manger when he took the Scotland gig - he just wasn’t suited to that role.
As for Hearts, Who the hell knows what was going on there.
Have folk forgotten just how good a manager he was for us?
I can help with this. What was going on was he was given very sizeable budgets year after year, consistently wasted them on signing dross players and then shifting the same dross six months later, fostered a poisonous atmosphere around the squad and put us on course to get relegated.
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1 minute ago, Sparticus said:
And being hounded out by the fans who hired planes to fly strange messages about him.
A plane hired by a handful of oddballs caused him to leave his job nine months later?
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37 minutes ago, Savage Henry said:
Mind that time Neilson was Hearts manager? It didn’t end well. It’s an absolute basket case of an appointment for an absolute basket case of a club. And it’s hilarious.
I mean, I'm hardly a Neilson fan, but did it not end with him getting promotion at the first attempt, finishing 3rd in our first season up and then leaving us in 2nd place half way through his final season?
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Really poor not announcing that Stendel has gone first, by the way.
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29 minutes ago, accies1874 said:
boring but good
We've got our club back, lads.
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17 minutes ago, Green Day said:
Its not ironic, its factual.
For Dundee Utd it was a short term necessity to get out the Championship, and they will sell Shankland at some point for a lot of cash.
For hearts it is endemic, spending cash you dont actually generate is your USP, its why you went into admin.
Uhuh, and what you fail to mention is that the FoH/benefactor money have gone almost entirely (if not entirely) towards a £20m turnover-increasing infrastructure project and a £3m fee require to facilitate a fan takeover of the club - not player wages.
Secondly, the FOH money is money that the club generates. You'd just rather we didn't have it.
I think that fairly succinctly sums up why you're wrong and we're well off topic here, so this is my last post on the subject.
Scott Burns eh?
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Just now, Green Day said:
Oh aye, 51% when Anderson and FoH £10m million donation is taken into account.
p.s. I know exactly what I am talking about - it is that Hearts would be several million pounds in the red every year without the begging bowl.
So you can hardly criticise Dundee Utd for spending to get out of the seasides..............mind you, thats exactly what you will be doing next year.
I'm not criticising Dundee United, I was pointing out the irony of a you calling Dundee United a "well run club" while constantly criticising Hearts' "over spending". You've since completely proven my point by reeling off the usual clichés about benefactors and FoH.
You don't seem to be able to distinguish between "over spending" and "having a large amount of money to spend" either, but that's by the by. This is now a thread about us pinching Dundee United's slightly underwhelming but fairly solid manager in amusing circumstances, so maybe we should get it back on topic.
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6 minutes ago, Ludo*1 said:
I'd still believe Burns.
I'm sure Donaldson is pally with Neilson as well.
I'm not overly enthused by him as an appointment (although evidently we could do a lot worse).
5 minutes ago, Green Day said:I have no idea what you are talking about, is that Dundee Utd?
Are you actually going to criticise THEIR spending, when you would be about £6m a year down the shitter without uncle James and FoH cash?
FFS, at least make it difficult for me to mock you next time.................
Yeah, I was very obviously making the point, as I frequently do, that Hearts are a well run club.
Actually, I don't give a shit how much Dundee United spend, just pointing out your hypocrisy.
Hearts wage to turnover ratio was reported to be 51% in the same report, so clearly you have no idea what you're talking about either.
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30 minutes ago, Green Day said:
Why would the manager of a well run Premiership club want to join a car crash of a club in the Championship - especially after the way he was treated the last time?
Surprising that a Hibs fan thinks a club with a 133% wage to turnover ratio is "well run".
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7 minutes ago, Tannadeechee said:
I'd believe Scott Burns at Record/Express over Murray. Scott has been very accurate with United stories going back over a number of years.
6 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said:Ewan Murray or Scott Burns.
A real hard choice in terms of who to believe.
Ewan Murray is very cosy with Hearts.
Plus it seems to be Scott Burns vs everyone else by the looks of it. Maybe his story is out of date.
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At least it's not McCann.
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6 hours ago, harry94 said:
The season before, Hearts had a streamlined squad with a team of departures after admin and then only Danny Wilson in (after that debacle re his registration), quite a few promising youngsters had their chance that season and looked promising.
Levein and Neilson come in on 12th May after a long time plotting for the end of the season and Hearts clearly had their house in order with quite a bit of early business that had then 7 or 8 additions before pre-season started more than a month later. Neilson is a very good manager at this level and moulded a very good squad together which could consistently dominate games and had goals in them - similar to his changes at United.
A big thing that fucks over relegated teams more than anything else is when they come down with the management situation up in their air and then have a squad of players on the books who consist of has-beens who are draining top 6 wages and little prep in place for how they are going to move them on (or indeed uncertainty about some important players staying) and recruit. Hearts should (and probably will) win the league very comfortably with their respective size and October is long enough away but I think there's real potential for this to go quite badly. The smaller season as well could be a particular disadvantage, not as much time to claw back a deficit after a bad start.
Unfortunately a lot of this is true. There's clearly been a terrible atmosphere around the squad for ages that's unlikely to be sorted quickly. I can see us starting slowly which could be lethal in a shortened season.
The good thing (as shite as it is) about starting in October is that it gives us some time to make the right appointment (lol) and start changing the atmosphere. Regardless of how the court case goes, Budge leaving needs to be part of that change.
As far as the squad goes, I'm in the odd position of not being massively fussed about the prospect of anyone leaving and also thinking that we don't need to do a huge amount of business. The manager (and the sporting director) are far more important appointments.
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League Reconstruction 20/21 season
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Going directly to arbitration in accordance with the SFA articles still "forces" anyone who wants to oppose the action to spend money. Hearts lost, so we rightly cover the costs.
The idea that the SFA were going to impose a massive fine or expulsion *after an explicit warning from a judge that it was likely to be unlawful* is just as wild as some of the stuff Hearts fans have come up with this summer. At least you can act like it had nothing to do with that and was about feeling sorry for us or something.